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Offline JB73

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« on: October 19, 2004, 04:19:43 PM »
MAN did I have a weird dream last night. It really spooked me. It was SO vivid I can recall exactly what the images described below look like… and if I could paint I could detail even the leaves on the tree still. I have never had a dream this vivid I could recall the next day, let alone be able to recount as many details as I can.



I was swimming maybe 100 yards offshore at a family cottage, though as in most dreams it was just that in name and familiarity in mind. Instead of a small lake with mucky bottom, and mostly flat land around, it was large and very hilly, and the lake was sand bottom.

The shoreline of the cottage was similar, though much larger. Looking out at the water was facing due west, with an airport on the other side of the lake, maybe ½ mile away. The runway of this airport went east-west directly, and in the dream the flight path for landing and takeoff were right over our cottage.

Looking at the cottage from the water there was a large (maybe 500 foot) hill going up, heavily wooded by large deciduous trees (some oaks topping 100 feet).

So here’s the dream:

Me and a buddy were there fishing and swimming all day. Near sundown a B25 (very similar to the one at the museum we went to at the CON) came in for a landing right over the cottage, “buzzing” me and said buddy possibly 200 feet overhead. It was a thrilling sight, and we watched him land.

The next morning the neighbor brought a new sailboat over, and was going to bring it down to the water later. It was sitting on his driveway at the top of the hill above the cottages. Where the boat was sitting was in a gap of the trees maybe 50-100 yards wide. It was almost the only way clear up the hill. This is significant later.

That morning the B25 was ready to head out to an air show we had learned, and went out a few hundred yards into the lake swimming to get a first hand close look at the plane flying over us. Planes routinely took off and landed on this route, and we mostly ignored them, but this being a WWII classic we had to go see it.

When the B25 took off, it was obviously heavy with fuel or something. He barely made the end of the runway before the water’s edge, and got gear up and leveled out right away. He was headed straight towards us at maybe 50 feet. We could feel the power of the engines and the prop, and we could see the water being agitated by the turbulence.

As he came nearer, we pumped our fists in the air and waved energetically, and the pilot actually got close enough for us to see him smile, and wave back proudly. He looked like a kind gentleman, obviously in his mid 50’s or higher, and defiantly like a pilot in the white scarf, leather jacket kind of way.

About the time he passed over us he started the climb over that hill ahead of him. The strain of the plane was a sight, and flying a sim, I could sort of feel the tension of climbing with such little power. It immediately dawned on me this was no Cessna, and getting over that hill and tree line was going to be a major feat.


Then it hit me, that sailboat with it’s huge mast sticking up was blocking the main break in the trees. OH MY GOD I screamed out, trying to warn the pilot of the danger ahead of him! We started frantically heading to shore in a vain attempt to get ahead of the plane and somehow flag him back or something.


We watched from behind as the plane climbed and entered about a 20 deg right bank towards the gap.


The rest is hard to type out in detail, but I could “feel” exactly what was going on inside the plane.

The pilot obviously noticed the obstruction in his path, and attempted to bank the hill, and head parallel to it. There was a strong headwind coming over the hill, but I couldn’t tell if that was helping his lift, or hurting his climb. Unfortunately he didn’t have enough power, and the plane began to stall over. Gradually at first, eventually getting past a 90 deg bank.

At that very moment my friend and I were almost running on the surface of the water trying to do something, anything to stop this disaster. My heart was racing, my chest pounding, and I was screaming NO, NO, NO!!!

The plane went past 90 deg, nosed over and slammed into the shoreline, the nose on the shore, and 80% of the plane in the water.

Remember this was a dream so not everything happened in a “realistic” matter.

The plane did not explode and disintegrate on impact. It kind of crumpled.

We reached the shore, and sprinted over to the plane, hoping to help that pilot if he was alive.

I am getting the shivers typing this, because I can feel the fear I had in the dream. I wasn’t scared of the plane, or it blowing up, I was scared of seeing a mangled body to be honest. I have a deep fear, and aversion to corpses, and in general open wounds. In the movies it is ok to see because I know it is fake, but real blood and guts I am very disturbed by, and have childish nightmare about the injury I see on someone else happening to me.

Anyway back to the dream:

My buddy and I are the only ones there. We can see the people on the airfield a mile across the lake running to the shore, and the emergency vehicles heading to the road around the lake. I am yelling “HELLO?” “ARE YOU STILL IN THERE?” to the plane, hoping for a response from the pilot, so I know he’s not all messed up and stuff. As I edge closer to the cockpit on the ground inverted in front of me, I see the glass in the front of it splattered with blood. I’m yelling my lungs out “HELLO?” not knowing what else to say, because I am afraid to say, “Do you need help?” fearing that seeing him injured would make me turn and run like a coward.


About 10 feet from the front of the plane, voice now strained, I’m begging in my mind for someone else to get there and help the pilot. I am embarrassed I am being a coward and not running into the wreckage to help.


SNAP I wake up, heart pounding faster than I can ever remember, throat sore like I was really screaming out for help.



I have been thinking about this all day.
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Offline GtoRA2

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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2004, 04:26:08 PM »
Wacky man....

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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2004, 04:28:21 PM »
ug, and i thought my dream of the o'club being gone was bad.

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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2004, 04:53:47 PM »
Man, how are your dreams in such detail?  

I usually dream of one of two things, neither of which are appropriate to type here.
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2004, 05:06:05 PM »
Dont make me bust out the lucid dreaming stuff again.... :)
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2004, 05:07:15 PM »
JB73,

I had a similar dream.  I'd been researching a B24 crew for a long time and had pieced together all I could about what happened inside and out of their B24 on the day it went down.  I'd talked to the survivors, read all the mission reports and talked to crewmen from the planes around it when it was hit and went down.  I'd also had a flight in the Collings foundation B24 on the flight deck and had crawled around the inside of the aircraft so I knew the look and dimensions in my mind.


One night it all came together in a dream and it was frightening as I was in that plane watching it all unfold and there was nothing I could do to stop it and I was the only one knowing what was going to happen and the people I was near to on the flight deck were going to die.

I woke up absolutely spooked, it seemed so real to me.

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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2004, 05:50:10 PM »
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Man, how are your dreams in such detail?  
thats part of what spooked me... this one was WAY more vivid than anything in my life.

there's even more detail about the crash itself i know, but too much to type and hard for me to put into words on a keyboard.
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2004, 06:11:53 PM »
The human brain stores an unbelievable amount of tacit knowledge... stuff that you have knowledge of, but weren't aware of it.  You know stuff you don't know you know :p  The color of your 1st grade teacher's eyes, for example.  You notice a TON of stuff and can replicate that in great detail when dreaming.  Of course, it is impossible to dream of, say, the cockpit of an SR71 unless you have some memory or an idea of the cockpit.

73 had a memory of the B25 from the con, and obviously a great memory of the cottage area and lake, allowing him to see a ton of detail.

Just curious... 73, what did you eat yesterday?
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2004, 06:14:56 PM »
a full medium pizza hut pan pizza with peporoni, green peppers and extra sause about 45 min before bed



seriously LOL thats why im fat hehehehhee
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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2004, 06:16:48 PM »
Thats the only thing, all day? :)

beverages?

Well, green peppers could be a source of an overactive nervous system.  They have a ton of folic acid (B-complex).  A supplement of B-vitamins keeps your nervous system sharp.  Too much, and it *might* give you a light, over-sensitive sleep... not very restful.  Good for dreaming though :)
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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2004, 06:23:20 PM »
ok rundown LOL

breakfeast: corned beef hash, egg, and hashbrowns

diet pepsi

diet pepsi

lunch: 2 terribly dry burritos and spanish rice

diet pepsi

diet pepsi


online flying till 9 or so about 4-5 more diet pepsi's

then the pizza
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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2004, 06:27:24 PM »
Holy soda batman! :D

Yeah, you had a ton of protein, and with that, plenty of B-vitamins.  Eggs, beef, beans, rice, peppers, cheese, etc.  

I bet you had some ripe gas when you got up too? :D
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« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2004, 06:27:28 PM »
you guys need to lay off AH for a while.

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« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2004, 06:28:53 PM »
why do fat people use diet food?
















.... think about it..

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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2004, 06:44:10 PM »
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why do fat people use diet food?
because of medication i am borderline diabetic, and sugared soda (considering how much i drink) would put me over the edge.
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