Big map is back, but...

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by BaldEagl
Sounds like SOAR to me.

Again, incorrect.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by USRanger
Heard this many times by the same people.  Sure would like to see one film showing it.  That is not how ANY AH squad plays, from what I've ever seen.  That's ridiculous.  Why would anyone pay $15 a month to NOT fight?  Let's get real here.  Staring at a spot on the ceiling sounds about the same level of fun as that.  I don't know of one player, let alone a large squad, that plays like that. We play for the fights just as much as anyone else.  And yes, I do, have a gazillion films to prove it, not that I need to.



 

Stang bro, you can hold your breath til you pass out, because your opinion of what we, as paying subscribers do as a squad, is null and void.  It matters not. Nothing personal, I'd say that to anybody.


Our squad night is Mondays 9-11EST in the least populated LW arena.  How about some of you grab your squads and bring it? A direct challange to any & all who want some.  We're here for the fight, just like anyone else.  It'd be great to have an equal opposing force against us.  So bring that watermelon or forever hold your peace.

And now, back to discussing the large map.....

Had I not been removed from the BoP's forum, this could have been a better discussion.  

Ranger, no sense on needing film.    It did go down like that.   Talk to Donzo with whom I just pm'd.  

Kill the drama here.   You got something to retort with, PM me.

[bj229r]

Ok it's official, the map's too big....right now all THREE countries are whording empty fields:eek:

[Lusche]

Originally posted by bj229r
Ok it's official, the map's too big....right now all THREE countries are whording empty fields:eek:

Right now, as I read this words, I (flying knight) can identify at least 3 large air battles going on with plenty of combat opportunity  (LWO). A few sneak and mass raid attempts , and ample GV combat opportunities without VH's going down every 3mins (Boy, what did I miss these kind of battles on small maps!)

[bj229r]

Originally posted by Lusche
Right now, as I read this words, I (flying knight) can identify at least 3 large air battles going on with plenty of combat opportunity  (LWO). A few sneak and mass raid attempts , and ample GV combat opportunities without VH's going down every 3mins (Boy, what did I miss these kind of battles on small maps!)

Oh yah, thats goin on as well---one of Nits progressions (212 area)has reversed, but all 3 countries were hitting empty bases at once, wish I has a screenie...bet some of them passed each other on the way:lol

[Donzo]

Originally posted by Masherbrum
You are going to be the recipient of a PM.

Thank you.  I would like to follow up (your inbox is full).

[Donzo]

Originally posted by Masherbrum
Had I not been removed from the BoP's forum, this could have been a better discussion.  

Ranger, no sense on needing film.    It did go down like that.   Talk to Donzo with whom I just pm'd.  

Kill the drama here.   You got something to retort with, PM me.

You have not been removed from the BoP forum.

[Donzo]

Originally posted by bj229r
Ok it's official, the map's too big....right now all THREE countries are whording empty fields:eek:

I guess everyone's a BoP, huh?

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by USRanger
Heard this many times by the same people.  Sure would like to see one film showing it.  That is not how ANY AH squad plays, from what I've ever seen.  That's ridiculous.  Why would anyone pay $15 a month to NOT fight?  Let's get real here.  Staring at a spot on the ceiling sounds about the same level of fun as that.  I don't know of one player, let alone a large squad, that plays like that. We play for the fights just as much as anyone else.  And yes, I do, have a gazillion films to prove it, not that I need to.



 

Stang bro, you can hold your breath til you pass out, because your opinion of what we, as paying subscribers do as a squad, is null and void.  It matters not. Nothing personal, I'd say that to anybody.


Our squad night is Mondays 9-11EST in the least populated LW arena.  How about some of you grab your squads and bring it? A direct challange to any & all who want some.  We're here for the fight, just like anyone else.  It'd be great to have an equal opposing force against us.  So bring that watermelon or forever hold your peace.

And now, back to discussing the large map.....

I never said it was the BoPs

I didn't run into any of them that night.  I think I have a film of part of it if you are seriously interested.

[BaldEagl]

Originally posted by USRanger
That is not how ANY AH squad plays, from what I've ever seen.  That's ridiculous.  Why would anyone pay $15 a month to NOT fight?  Let's get real here.  Staring at a spot on the ceiling sounds about the same level of fun as that.  I don't know of one player, let alone a large squad, that plays like that.

You are sadly mistaken.  I am a Bish as is SOAR and I have watched them do just that in EW before the split scoring.  I have no reason to believe they have changed their modus operandi.

Don't get me wrong, this isn't a slam on SOAR as many of their members are nice guys and I have done a few missions with them from time to time.  Some are even willing to stay and fight but what you describe largely describes them as a group.  How else does a squad score well over 200 base captures in one month?  

If that's what they enjoy then more power to them but your statement is simply wrong.

[soupcan]

Originally posted by bj229r
all 3 countries were hitting empty bases at once

so your rook countrymen who were defending against our assault
at a12 for over 90 minutes actually weren't there?

the furball between a4 and a1 was an illusion?

it took the rooks a full dar bar and 30 min to capture v11
because it was empty?

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Donzo
Thank you.  I would like to follow up (your inbox is full).

Send it.

[A8TOOL]

I quoted this from Page four or five I think and shortened for posting here.


Well we asked for an inch and they gave us miles and miles and miles of land to try and conquer.

I like the map, it's a big change and the sky looks good especially at sundown. Makes it easy to see CV's too.

Lots of bases to capture but many of which will be undefended  looks like SOAR is back in business. They went from over 500 base capt. a month to 53 or something when the arenas split the scoring.

He also mentioned local area Strat targets are back. I really liked that about the game  way back when before I left it in 02. i know some don't care but I'm glad it's back.
 [/QUOTE]
 
There are many tactics used here in AH that I consider cowardly or less than honorable but there is nothing any of us can do about it except for find ways to counter them. Complaining might seem to help, but it just doesn't cut it.

 With this map you can expect squads other than SOAR to be attacking undefended bases mainly because it's so huge. Out of necessity, most base taking squads are using the layout to their advantage including some posting here. It's just so large that it's hard not to right?. So far as I've seen, only a few of the less honorable have been playing whack a mole with it.

The primary objective of the game is to have fun any way seen fit by the player. It's their 15 bucks and no one can tell them how to spend it although it would be nice to convince a few that your way is better.
For me, I get the most satisfaction out of working as a team to accomplish common goals (Basetaking and fighter cap) and it doesn't matter what map I'm on. Others fly around aimlessly or look for unsuspecting prey and there are countless other AH members who only have enough time for a quick furball before or after spending time with family.

 Even though it does have it's faults, I like this map. You can't please all IMO but this map comes close because theres so much to do on it. Someone called it the 100 year war or something and I thought that was a pretty funny since it is going to take a lot of time and effort to reset it. Someone else in this posting...maybe Lusche.. said this is an old map that has never been reset. I wonder if thats true?

[hubsonfire]

Originally posted by BaldEagl
You are sadly mistaken.  I am a Bish as is SOAR and I have watched them do just that in EW before the split scoring.  I have no reason to believe they have changed their modus operandi.

Don't get me wrong, this isn't a slam on SOAR as many of their members are nice guys and I have done a few missions with them from time to time.  Some are even willing to stay and fight but what you describe largely describes them as a group.  How else does a squad score well over 200 base captures in one month?  

If that's what they enjoy then more power to them but your statement is simply wrong.

I'll second what BE said (except the nice things about them, since they're suing us for squadname copyright infringement, and the Department of Defense is now tasked with finding out our IPs and sending a deathsquad after us)- a few of us used to go in there specifically to thwart the milkrunning, and lo and behold, there were a few BoPs that were regulars in there as well. To say no one does it is simply not true, even if that's not the entire squad's "official" MO.

[Flayed1]

Originally posted by A8TOOL
 Someone else in this posting...maybe Lusche.. said this is an old map that has never been reset. I wonder if thats true? [/B]

  Yes as far as I know this is true.. I remeber when this map first came out it was the most stalemated map we had in rotation, though I think I have seen more bases change hands in the last few days on it then i ever did in the old days.

  As to weather I like having a large map back, yes in the past few days I have had good fights GV, Fighter, Attack and Bomber..  Lots of room for Good bombing runs and many CV's to sink    On the Furball side I really don't understand why why people are complaining, I have seen many furballs constanty going on and they never seem hard to find...   I guess it must be my keen strat porking eye that can detect these top secret furballs in order to avoid them (Yes I said avoid as it is usually not good to attemt climb out in bombers through a furball) though somtimes my B17 gunships/B26's will make such a trip  

 And befor people start to attempt to roast me for being a "strat porking, avoid the fight pilot"  look at it this way, you attempt to stop the "land grabbers" by taking up a fighter and busting up their mission or some such. I on the other hand like to think farther into the future than this or that mission and pork the crap out of the barracks or ord on a base there for taking the abillity to grab my sides land from them.  

  Oh 1 good fight I did have last night in my 26's  was at 7K lvl bombing an NME CV. Killed the CV  loseing an engine doing it, looking back I had 2 Zekes a spit, F4U and an F6F on my tail.
    To make a long story short the spit was missing a wing, the F6F went home smoking, the F4U got real shot up and went home I assumed it was a pilot wound, 1 Zeke Blew up I think and the other found out he couldn't fly far missing 2 wing tips and ended up bailing.  I then got the fun of gliding across the water being out of fuel with no elevators and 1 aileron on my lead plane, making it to the end of the runway and having my nose just dip into the ground enough that the crew sadly did not survive, then being dumped into a drone inches above the runway trying to land with a t-34 shooting at me lol.  

  See that had all types of fun in it, some furball, attack and GVing as they took the base, bombing for me, attempted bomber killing for them well they really did get one in the long run ...  I should have recorded that, I think it would have made a great AAR.

  Any way TY HTC for the large map (I hope maps... TRINITY, TRINITY, TRINITY)
 This has actually renewed some of my intrest in AH and brought me back some from EVE online. In fact as I sit here I have my X-52 mounted to the arm's of my chair and am getting ready to log on to do battle...