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Offline badhorse

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« on: December 16, 2007, 10:23:51 AM »
Would someone please explain this.  
I wanted to get into the LW orange arena. (big map)  It was full. I would go into a different arena for a bit, then check back to see if I could get in.
Orange was at 201/200.  I went into the EW arena for less than 30 seconds; came out to check organge again and it was 206/200.  

I wish they would have a larger numbers cap on the big maps.
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2007, 10:34:35 AM »
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Would someone please explain this.  
I wanted to get into the LW orange arena. (big map)  It was full. I would go into a different arena for a bit, then check back to see if I could get in.
Orange was at 201/200.  I went into the EW arena for less than 30 seconds; came out to check organge again and it was 206/200.  
 


Easy to explain: While you were gone, 2 people logged out of LWO. A moment later, 7 other players contact HTC server and see 199/200. Each of them joins. Result: 206/200.
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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2007, 11:06:09 AM »
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I wish they would have a larger numbers cap on the big maps.


The LW arena limits increase over the course of the day (US time).
Titanic Tuesday LW arena limits increase to 850 Tuesday 10:00am - Wed 10:00 CST
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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2007, 05:05:52 PM »
I tried 5 times thoughout the day saturday to get into LW orange, finally just went to midwar.. (blue was a joke as usual, 2 massive furballs going on and nothing else)

wanted to get in orange to fly with squaddies and all like planned, but no big deal, not like I paying per month to play or anything.:p
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« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2007, 01:29:34 AM »
What you need to do is go to the other  LW arena to try to get the cap on the arena you can't get into to bump up.  

It's dynamic that way.  Increase the number in the low arena and the full arena goes up.

And, check back often.  Like someone already said, there only needs to be one open spot and good timing to get two or three more in.

I had no trouble getting into orange today when it was full.  Just takes patience and persistence.


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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2007, 10:20:30 AM »
I actually got annoyed with the whole arena cap thing on Friday night for the fisrt time. Blue was consistantly full whilst the Knights had an ENY of ~20 in Orange and clearly the last thing needed was the whole 68th turning up after FSO.

I suppose we could have gone early or mid, but again, 15 or so Lancers all turning up at once would have totally unbalanced the sides.

I know there are a number of options available in this situation but none of them are particularly suitable to squads with more than a couple of members.

The problem on Friday night in Orange was a small number of Bish players -Knights and Rooks were pretty even, so I can only assume there was a huge number of Bish in Blue. Maybe the arena caps should be per-side and set to keep numbers roughly in step.

Probably flogging a dead horse here.
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« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2007, 10:36:26 AM »
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I actually got annoyed with the whole arena cap thing on Friday night for the fisrt time. Blue was consistantly full whilst the Knights had an ENY of ~20 in Orange and clearly the last thing needed was the whole 68th turning up after FSO.


Wouldn't have it been easy to log in as Rook or Bish for a night? You would have done a good deed for all players by evening out the sides & reducing ENY limits for your Knight friends. And it's quite fun to shoot down (or to be shot down by) players you are knowing well.
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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2007, 10:53:02 AM »
Areana caps generally don't piss me off, but a few nights ago I saw something like this

LW Orange- 236/200
Blue 175/200

EW- 63/350  :furious  :huh

WTF?  Dynamic loading that much of a problem?  Load balance much?  Yeeeeesh!
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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2007, 09:58:28 PM »
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Areana caps generally don't piss me off, but a few nights ago I saw something like this

LW Orange- 236/200
Blue 175/200

EW- 63/350  :furious  :huh

WTF?  Dynamic loading that much of a problem?  Load balance much?  Yeeeeesh!


Dynamic caps are ONLY in late war ! All the other arenas have static caps and NEVER change.
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« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2007, 12:02:51 AM »
its dumb, it only annoys people, it doesent work as intended ( can only imagine what the intention was)

you can go a day or 2 without seeing a new arena cap related gripe thread started   CLEVER AS IT MAY HAVE LOOKED ON PAPER, THE CURRENT SYSTEM DOES NOT WORK UNLESS ITS GOAL IS TO CONSISTENTLY DENY PAYING USERS WHAT THEY WANT AND OR TO PISS THEM OFF, IN THAT CASE IT IS A ROARING SUCCESS

there, I feel better now

but in all seriousness, for the past 3 days in a row I have been denied, what I feel is what im paying for.. maybe im selfish.. wanting to fly in whatever arena I want at whim..

perhaps the arena crap debacle was livable/acceptable back when there were 2 SIMILAR arenas..  now there are 2 totally different ones, one obviousley more popular than the other..

my squad seldom ventures out of orange (except when forced by the effing cap, which is frequent ) because its a big squad and its a big map, works out well.

being more or less FORCED to fly in another arena exiled from friends etce tc is pretty much a denial of paid service imo.
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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2007, 08:31:09 AM »
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Dynamic caps are ONLY in late war ! All the other arenas have static caps and NEVER change.


Well THAT explains a lot.  

Why the hell would you set a static cap so high for an arena who's population has a hard time going over 100?  

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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2007, 08:50:24 AM »
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Why the hell would you set a static cap so high for an arena who's population has a hard time going over 100?  


Obviously you do not understand what Dynamic Caps are designed to do.
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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2007, 08:53:28 AM »
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Obviously you do not understand what Dynamic Caps are designed to do.


Excuse me, Sally, but try reading the posts above before knockin some stupid comment like this around.  

Here ya go.  I'll help.

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Dynamic caps are ONLY in late war ! All the other arenas have static caps and NEVER change.


Have a nice day.
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« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2007, 09:12:36 AM »
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its dumb, it only annoys people, it doesent work as intended ( can only imagine what the intention was)

you can go a day or 2 without seeing a new arena cap related gripe thread started   CLEVER AS IT MAY HAVE LOOKED ON PAPER, THE CURRENT SYSTEM DOES NOT WORK UNLESS ITS GOAL IS TO CONSISTENTLY DENY PAYING USERS WHAT THEY WANT AND OR TO PISS THEM OFF, IN THAT CASE IT IS A ROARING SUCCESS

there, I feel better now

but in all seriousness, for the past 3 days in a row I have been denied, what I feel is what im paying for.. maybe im selfish.. wanting to fly in whatever arena I want at whim..

perhaps the arena crap debacle was livable/acceptable back when there were 2 SIMILAR arenas..  now there are 2 totally different ones, one obviousley more popular than the other..

my squad seldom ventures out of orange (except when forced by the effing cap, which is frequent ) because its a big squad and its a big map, works out well.

being more or less FORCED to fly in another arena exiled from friends etce tc is pretty much a denial of paid service imo.


HTC offers you 2  LW arena's.  

What are you being denied?

If there was only 1 LW arena and the numbers were 350/350, then I would agree that you were being deined.  The fact that there are 2 LW arenas means that you are not being denied the ability to fly in a LW arena.

If you cannot get your big squad into one LW arena, tell them all to go to the other LW arena.
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« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2007, 09:55:30 AM »
The dynamic caps work exactly as they are suppose to. They were designed and setup to make the population in each of the LW arena to grow evenly, which it does.


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Why the hell would you set a static cap so high for an arena who's population has a hard time going over 100?


Back when there was only one LW arena with one MW and one EW arena ALL caps were static, and set at 350. The hope was people would move out and enjoy ALL of the arenas. However, after the first few weeks most figured out "how" to choose the LW arena and it was always full.... and the crying began. HTC split the arenas, and most STILL chose only one of the LW arenas hitting the cap, and the "overflow" landed in the second LW arena with low numbers..... and the crying began. So the dynamic cap system was made..... and the crying continues.
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