No one is going to like this

[Delirium]

My idea is 2 fold;

Input an ENY system for a certain area, as well as for the arena itself and stack the 2 numbers together.

(example) You got into country and you have a ENY of 5 imposed. You find a country A base being horded by 15 of country Bs planes and the eny for the base nearby is even higher (the ratio is up for debate). On the other hand, if you want to take off from an area with few friendlies, you can eliminate the eny problem you had on log in to the arena.

Remove auto-take off and autopilot for level flight under 500 feet

(if you want to go NOE, you need to work at it)

Lower radar effectiveness to under 100 feet over water and 250 over land

Right now, the noe mission is a win button, lets give them a little challenge to perform it.

[Pannono]

Deli, youre from CT?

[Delirium]

Yes, but what does this have to do with this thread?

[Pannono]

So am I! What part? I am from Wolcott.

[SD67]

My idea is 2 fold;

Input an ENY system for a certain area, as well as for the arena itself and stack the 2 numbers together.

(example) You got into country and you have a ENY of 5 imposed. You find a country A base being horded by 15 of country Bs planes and the eny for the base nearby is even higher (the ratio is up for debate). On the other hand, if you want to take off from an area with few friendlies, you can eliminate the eny problem you had on log in to the arena.

This does nothing to prevent people from flying high ENY planes into unbalanced areas though. If there was some sort of barrier that turns your La7 into a D3A when you passed it, then yes.

Remove auto-take off and autopilot for level flight under 500 feet

(if you want to go NOE, you need to work at it)

Not a bad Idea, this would be OK I fly with auto take off disabled anyway.

Lower radar effectiveness to under 100 feet over water and 250 over land

Right now, the noe mission is a win button, lets give them a little challenge to perform it.

Nice idea but unrealistic. People who run NOE missions already have enough troubles keeping their dweebs below 500ft.

[BnZ]

I disagree delerium.

Lower radar coverage to the frickin' soil!!!

*sigh* Yes, I know radar can't cover to the soil. But in r/l, you'd have forces on the GROUND who would spot incoming, or at least guys out herding the sheep who could report in. NOE is at least 10 times more likely to take a base than any more realistic attack with reasonable numbers, and that sucks.

[SD67]

NOE missions get busted all the time. They fly past CV's, they fly past GV's, they fly past High Altitude BUFFS, the n00bs bust DAR, all activity to a base suddenly stops for 15 minutes while the mission is posted, advertised and filled.
If you need lower radar to spot them you're doing something wrong.

[NEARY]

people who are just starting can't get off the ground without auto takeoff 

and that would make people give up aces high and prevent htc from getting more funds which could ultimitly prevent htc from adding more featues

[Lusche]

*sigh* Yes, I know radar can't cover to the soil. But in r/l, you'd have forces on the GROUND who would spot incoming, or at least guys out herding the sheep who could report in.

We do have that too. Or why do you think bases start to flash when a noe getting close?

[trigger2]

I disagree delerium.

Lower radar coverage to the frickin' soil!!!

*sigh* Yes, I know radar can't cover to the soil. But in r/l, you'd have forces on the GROUND who would spot incoming, or at least guys out herding the sheep who could report in. NOE is at least 10 times more likely to take a base than any more realistic attack with reasonable numbers, and that sucks.

The problem with this though is simple...
The farmer would have to find a GERMAN patrol.
Which would then have to scramble to a HQ to find a radio.
Where they'd have to radio in LAST KNOWN coordinates.
Where that would then be forwarded by 5-10 other squads/divisions leaving room for human error...
And by the time thats all done...
Some airfield in the middle of god knows where (prolly p40...) is gone...

I enjoy the idea of lowering the altitude... but I think it should be different...
Keep it like it is, but have a red dot in the corner of the zone if theres a plane or more above 100 or so feet making NOE even harder, as if keeping our dweebs low isn't enough trouble...

[MajIssue]

You're right "D"... I don't like your ideas... with all due respect. I'm pressed for time so I will save discussion for lunch.

[LLogann]

Yeah, what the Snail said!

We do have that too. Or why do you think bases start to flash when a noe getting close?

[APDrone]

Remove auto-take off and autopilot for level flight under 500 feet

(if you want to go NOE, you need to work at it)

Lower radar effectiveness to under 100 feet over water and 250 over land

Right now, the noe mission is a win button, lets give them a little challenge to perform it.

So.. instead of just a base flashing, you want the dots to show up as well?  And the presence of these dots is going to, somehow, encourage your country-mates to suddenly react differently than just the flashing icon? 

I've been on plenty of NOE raids and I've busted plenty of NOE raids.  I think the system is pretty well balanced as it is. 

[SlapShot]

My idea is 2 fold;

Input an ENY system for a certain area, as well as for the arena itself and stack the 2 numbers together.

(example) You got into country and you have a ENY of 5 imposed. You find a country A base being horded by 15 of country Bs planes and the eny for the base nearby is even higher (the ratio is up for debate). On the other hand, if you want to take off from an area with few friendlies, you can eliminate the eny problem you had on log in to the arena.

Remove auto-take off and autopilot for level flight under 500 feet

(if you want to go NOE, you need to work at it)

Lower radar effectiveness to under 100 feet over water and 250 over land

Right now, the noe mission is a win button, lets give them a little challenge to perform it.

Del ...

Input an ENY system for a certain area, as well as for the arena itself and stack the 2 numbers together.

(example) You got into country and you have a ENY of 5 imposed. You find a country A base being horded by 15 of country Bs planes and the eny for the base nearby is even higher (the ratio is up for debate). On the other hand, if you want to take off from an area with few friendlies, you can eliminate the eny problem you had on log in to the arena.

Your explanation is somewhat confusing ... but I think that I know what your alluding too. I would think that the coad to do this would be quite complex, along with taxing the server keeping track of all of that ... and the ROI probably would not be worth it from a business standpoint.

[Vudak]

So am I! What part? I am from Wolcott.

Wolcott?

God.

Ever been to Illussions?  If so, you've probably seen me.

I'd be the guy in the corner slamming his head into the table repeatedly to try and get some amusement out of the evening.

(Two of my lady friends have been dragging me there for the past eight years...  They keep saying it'll be fun...  And I keep believing them...)