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Offline SKYGUNS

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Henschel 129
« on: July 29, 2008, 07:13:40 PM »
Please don't tell me to search, I'm listing several models not just 1....  :)

 Design and development
By the middle of the 1930s the idea of using aircraft against ground targets had been "well understood" to be of little use other than hurting enemy morale. Experiences during World War I had demonstrated that attacking the combatants was generally much more dangerous to the aircraft than the troops on the ground, a problem that was only becoming more acute with the introduction of newer weapons. For much of the 1920s and 1930s the use of aircraft was seen primarily in the strategic and interdiction roles, where their targets were less likely to be able to fight back with any level of coordination. For high-value point targets, the dive bomber was the preferred solution.

The German Condor Legion experience during the Spanish Civil War turned this idea on its head. Although armed with generally unsuitable aircraft such as the Henschel Hs 123 and cannon-armed versions of the Heinkel He 112, their powerful armament and fearless pilots proved that the aircraft was a very effective weapon even without bombs. This led to some support within the Luftwaffe for the creation of an aircraft dedicated to this role, and eventually a contract was tendered for a new "attack aircraft".

Since the main source of damage would be from rifle and machine gun fire from the ground, the plane had to be heavily armored around the cockpit and engines. They also required the same protection in the windscreen, which required 75 mm thick armored glass. Since the aircraft was expected to be attacking its targets directly in low level strafing runs, the cockpit had to be located as close as possible to the nose in order to see the ground. One last requirement, a non-technical one, ended up dooming the designs; the RLM demanded that the aircraft be powered by "unimportant" engines of low power that were not being used in other designs, so the plane's production would not interfere with that of other types deemed more essential to the war effort.

Four companies were asked to respond, and only two of the resulting three entries were considered worthy of consideration; Focke-Wulf's conversion of their earlier Fw 189 reconnaissance plane, and Henschel's all-new Hs 129.



 Prototypes
The Hs 129 was designed around a single large "bathtub" of steel sheeting that made up the entire nose area of the plane, completely enclosing the pilot up to head level. Even the canopy was steel, with only tiny windows on the side to see out of and two angled blocks of glass for the windscreen. In order to improve the armor's ability to stop bullets, the fuselage sides were angled in forming a triangular shape, resulting in almost no room to move at shoulder level. There was so little room in the cockpit that the instrument panel ended up under the nose below the windscreen where it was almost invisible, some of the engine instruments were moved outside onto the engine nacelles, and the gunsight was mounted outside on the nose.

In the end the plane came in 12% overweight and the engines 8% underpowered, and it understandably flew poorly. The controls proved to be almost inoperable as speed increased, and in testing one plane flew into the ground from a short dive because the stick forces were too high for the pilot to pull out. The Fw design proved to be no better. Both planes were underpowered with their Argus As 410 engines, and very difficult to fly.

The RLM nevertheless felt they should continue with the basic concept. In the end the only real deciding factor between the two was that the Henschel was smaller and cheaper. The Focke-Wulf was put on low priority as a backup, and testing continued with the Hs 129 A-0. A series of improvements resulted in the Hs 129 A-1 series, armed with two 20 mm MG 151/20s and two 7.92 mm MG 17s, along with the ability to carry four 50 kg bombs under the fuselage midline.



Hs 129 B-1
Even before the A-1s were delivered the plane was redesigned with the Gnome-Rhône 14M radial engine, which were captured in some number when France fell. This engine supplied 700 hp (522 kW) for takeoff compared to the Argus at 465 hp (347 kW). The Gnome-Rhone radials were also made in versions with opposite rotation for the propeller, and were installed on the Hs 129 with the port engine rotating clockwise, and the starboard rotating counterclockwise, as seen from nose-on, exactly as the Allison inline V-12 engines in the USA's P-38 Lightning twin-engined fighter were set up, thus eliminating engine torque problems. The A-1 planes were converted into Hs 129 B-0's for testing (although some claim that some As were sold to Romania) and the pilots were reportedly much happier. Their main complaint was the view from the canopy, so a single larger windscreen and a new canopy with much better vision were added, resulting in the production model Hs 129 B-1.

B-1s started rolling off the lines in December 1941, but they were delivered at a trickle. In preparation for the new plane, I./Sch.G 1 had been formed up in January with Bf 109 E/B's (fighter-bomber version of Bf 109 E) and Hs 123's, and they were delivered B-0s and every B-1 that was completed. Still, it wasn't until April that 12 B-1s were delivered and its 4th staffel (squadron) was ready for action. They moved to the eastern front in the middle of May, and in June they received a new weapon, the 30 mm MK 101 cannon with armor-piercing ammunition in a midline pod.


 Hs 129 B-2
By May of 1942 after only 50 of the planes had been delivered, they started to deliver the new Hs 129 B-2 model side-by-side with the B-1. The only difference between the two were changes to the fuel system – a host of other minor changes could be found almost at random on either model. As time went on these changes were accumulated into the B-2 production line until you could finally tell them apart at a glance, the main differences being the removal of the mast for the radio antenna, the addition of a direction-finding radio antenna loop, and shorter exhaust stacks on the engines.

In the field the differences seemed to be more pronounced. The R-kits were renumbered and some were dropped, and in general the B-2 planes received the upgraded cannon pack using a MK 103 instead of the earlier MK 101. These guns both fired the same ammunition, but the 103 did so at almost twice the rate.


 Hs 129 B-3
 
Close up of the Bordkanone BK 7,5 cannonEven by late 1942 complaints started about the MK 103 against newer versions of the Soviet T-34 tanks. One obvious solution would be to use the larger 37 mm gun, adapted from an antitank gun that had recently been abandoned by the army. These guns had already been converted into pod-mounted weapons for the Ju 87 and found to be a fearsome weapon. When mounted on the Hs 129 the empty area behind the cockpit could be used for ammunition storage, which would address the only problem with the Ju 87's mounting, limited ammunition.

But for some reason the Luftwaffe decided to skip over this gun for the Hs 129, and install a gigantic 75 mm gun from the Panzer IV. A huge hydraulic system was used to damp the recoil of the gun, and an auto-loader system with twelve rounds was fitted in the large empty space behind the cockpit. The resulting system was able to knock out any tank in the world, but the weight slowed the already poor performance of the plane to barely flyable in this new Hs 129 B-3 version.

B-3s finally started arriving in June 1944, and only 25 were delivered by the time the lines were shut down in September. A small number were also converted from older B-2 models. In the field they proved deadly weapons, but with only 25 of them they had no effect on the war effort.


 Hs 129 C
In order to address the poor performance of the aircraft, plans had been underway for some time to fit the plane with newer versions of the Italian Isotta-Fraschini Delta engine that delivered 850 hp (634 kW). However the engine ran into a number of delays, and was still not ready for production when the plant was overrun by the Allies in 1945.

Specifications (Hs 129 B-1)


GENERAL CHARACTERISTICS

Crew: one, pilot
Length: 9.75 m (32 ft)
Wingspan: 14.2m (46 ft 7 in)
Height: 3.25 m (10 ft 8 in)
Wing area: 28.9 m² (312 ft²)
Empty weight: 4,060 kg (8,932 lb)
Loaded weight: 5,110 kg (11,242 lb)
Powerplant: 2× Gnome-Rhône 14M 14-cylinder radial engine, 522 kW (700 hp) each

PREFORMANCE

Maximum speed: 408 km/h (253 mph)
Range: 880 km (546 mi)
Service ceiling 9,000 m (29,525 ft)
Rate of climb: 7.083 m/s (1,394 ft/min)


ARMORMENT


(B-1) 2 × 7.92 mm MG 17 machine guns
2 × 20 mm MG 151/20 cannons
up to 8 × 50 kg (110 lb) fragmentation bombs or a 30 mm MK 101 armor piercing gun externally
(B-2) as B1, but MG 17 replaced by 13 mm MG 131 machine gun
37 mm or 75 mm anti-tank gun in pod









Thought it would be cool for a plane other than the 25 to do some Anti tank.
You deside wich model and perk it due to its deadlyness and rareness..
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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2008, 08:12:51 PM »
  The He-111 didnt even come out yet. :cry

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2008, 08:45:14 PM »
  The He-111 didn't even come out yet. :cry

You mean like this?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He-111 I agree, we need this aircraft. So many models and variants...  :aok

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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2008, 10:01:48 PM »
Agreed...I would like to see it  :aok

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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2008, 10:39:58 PM »
Agreed...I would like to see it  :aok

The Henschel or the He-111 or both?

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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2008, 09:10:52 AM »
Always liked the 129. Perfect for leaving a "lasting impression" with the enemy. :D

The 75mm in the B-25H was hand-fed, but check out the cool rotary magazine on the 129:

If I recall, Henschel really had to beef-up the lower chin skins just to survive the acoustic loads from the muzzle blast. :eek:
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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2008, 10:43:16 AM »
Would be nice to have it as an alternative to the 25H for tank busting.
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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2008, 12:40:23 PM »
  Alternative? I want to see them work together.... That 75mm cannon on the Mitchell can blow tanks... The 37mm pod on the Henschel can track/turret tanks or kill light GVs... Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2008, 12:42:42 PM »
I still prefer the Hurri D for tank killing..... i seem to get more kills than in the B25
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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2008, 12:45:40 PM »
  Alternative? I want to see them work together.... That 75mm cannon on the Mitchell can blow tanks... The 37mm pod on the Henschel can track/turret tanks or kill light GVs... Are you thinking what I'm thinking?
Titanic, sorry if I'm misunderstanding your post, but you know that HUGE pipe under the 129 is a 75.
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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2008, 12:47:44 PM »
Whether it was a 75 or a 37mm it would be able to kill tanks.

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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2008, 12:52:36 PM »
Whether it was a 75 or a 37mm it would be able to kill tanks.
True, but it depends a lot more on shot placement with the 37.
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