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Offline dedalos

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Re: The artful HO
« Reply #105 on: August 16, 2008, 02:24:41 PM »

It is also very easy to avoid a ho on the initial merge when both are very fast. This usually make it easier to reverse if the guy goes for the ho.


Lets try?
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Re: The artful HO
« Reply #106 on: August 16, 2008, 02:26:27 PM »
Lets try?

Ded couldnt hit water if he fell out of a boat. :P

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Re: The artful HO
« Reply #107 on: August 16, 2008, 02:30:45 PM »
Ded couldnt hit water if he fell out of a boat. :P

Shhhhhhh  :O

And how does water fall out of a bowt?  :huh
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Offline TonyJoey

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Re: The artful HO
« Reply #108 on: August 16, 2008, 02:32:26 PM »
Someone didn't excel in English class  :uhoh :P

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Re: The artful HO
« Reply #109 on: August 16, 2008, 02:35:10 PM »
Someone didn't excel in English class  :uhoh :P

Oups, just did not read it right.  In any case, I want to try my theory and no one is willing to help so you are it.  I ll be on tonight.  If cant avoid losing the fight or HO, then non of these aces will lol
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Re: The artful HO
« Reply #110 on: August 16, 2008, 02:40:00 PM »
Ok, but 1st plane FM2, since you like it so much. :aok :P

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Re: The artful HO
« Reply #111 on: August 16, 2008, 07:09:21 PM »
Lets try?


What?? Your kidding right.

So your saying it is not easy to avoid the ho...

or are you saying you get no advantage by making the lead turn while they are barreling in full speed for guns while I am setting up for the turn??
 
Whether I make the lead turn in front or cold six I will still behind them before they can make the turn back to me therefor I now have the offensive position. This means the ho er must now either run away or start the fight with me on their six.

If there is no turn back after they ho pass then that constitutes a non engagement and no "fight" will occur. Only a BZ ho fest. If this happens I will either fly away or bait them to my six for a juicy reversal and kill.

Now before anyone quotes the last sentence of the paragraph above If that happens then it really depends on how good you are at high speed baiting. If you suck at it then your gonna get killed by a faster BZ opponent.

But on the other hand if you attempt to HO and make a lead turn that just aint gonna work. Its not possilble hold guns for the shot and still make a lead turn. It is a simple matter of physics.






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Re: The artful HO
« Reply #112 on: August 16, 2008, 09:06:01 PM »
Lets try?
Ded, what are you proposing?  Do you need help to test your theory?

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Re: The artful HO
« Reply #113 on: August 17, 2008, 08:22:39 AM »
Ded, what are you proposing?  Do you need help to test your theory?

Yep.  I am proposing that we try to merge while I do everything I can to get a HO shot in and the other guy tries to avoid.   The theory is that if you avoid using a lead turn, I will be on your 6 instantly.  You know what happens when you turn early in a duel right?

I think people confuse the easy of killing a nube that tried to HO them, with the action of taking the HO.  If the HOer is any good, you have a big problem.  Think of duels again.  You turn early (lead turn) you die.  You try to avoid a HO or collision, you expose your belly.  You try to dive under, well thats just funny unless you keep going.

Anyway, I am just looking for some one to try it out with.
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Re: The artful HO
« Reply #114 on: August 17, 2008, 08:46:23 AM »
Yep.  I am proposing that we try to merge while I do everything I can to get a HO shot in and the other guy tries to avoid.   The theory is that if you avoid using a lead turn, I will be on your 6 instantly.  You know what happens when you turn early in a duel right?

I think people confuse the easy of killing a nube that tried to HO them, with the action of taking the HO.  If the HOer is any good, you have a big problem.  Think of duels again.  You turn early (lead turn) you die.  You try to avoid a HO or collision, you expose your belly.  You try to dive under, well thats just funny unless you keep going.

Anyway, I am just looking for some one to try it out with.

Sounds like you confused on exactly what a "lead turn" is ... it doesn't mean "turn early".
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Re: The artful HO
« Reply #115 on: August 17, 2008, 10:24:07 AM »
Sounds like you confused on exactly what a "lead turn" is ... it doesn't mean "turn early".

K, you try then?  It will take 5 minutes and we will know, or we can type here for ever.
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Re: The artful HO
« Reply #116 on: August 17, 2008, 01:02:30 PM »
OK, who is up for tonight?  After 9:30 CST?
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Re: The artful HO
« Reply #117 on: August 17, 2008, 01:04:35 PM »
OK, who is up for tonight?  After 9:30 CST?

dedalos

ill be around most likely(hopefully), you are always a great fight!

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Re: The artful HO
« Reply #118 on: August 17, 2008, 02:19:53 PM »
Hey D

I want to try as well.

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Re: The artful HO
« Reply #119 on: August 17, 2008, 04:41:33 PM »
Hey D

I want to try as well.

cool, I just want to see if I am right or wrong
Quote from: 2bighorn on December 15, 2010 at 03:46:18 PM
Dedalos pretty much ruined DA.