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Offline SHawk

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Re: Scoring System
« Reply #90 on: October 18, 2008, 12:53:55 PM »
Frankly, as long as Pacerr is rated as high score-wise, it will never be a real yardstick of skill.



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Re: Scoring System
« Reply #91 on: October 18, 2008, 01:03:34 PM »

You'll never ever pull off #1 in fighter with less than 30 sorties without cheating/vulching a 2nd account. I don't care how damn good you are. There is just to many variables involved. If you bail to achieve a good k/time # you'll hurt your k/d and get 1/4 points for the sortie. It takes a well rounded fighter score to get #1. Fly smart but not timid, get in, get your kills and get out. Long flights of picking will hurt some #'s but help others. Furballling will help some but hurt others. Time spent playing should NOT be a factor in rank. (just as it is now)

Take my word for it, no one knows the scoring system better than I. I'm a Math Major and work with numbers all day. I can look at your fighter score and tell you exactly what you need to work on to make it better. :aok

Whether the stat cats are averaged out or just added up, they are still effectively each weighted at 20% but I see your point.  You make some good points and while you are correct that it is unlikely a player will get #1 or #2 even in fighter by only flying 30 sorties, I still think it is unfair if he can achieve a top 20 rank from flying less than 30 sorties.  But regardless you make a strong case for the current system, nice post.

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Re: Scoring System
« Reply #92 on: October 18, 2008, 01:51:33 PM »


Category                    Stat        Rank (In that Category)
Kills per Death + 1      27.17      3
Kills per Sortie               4.18     16
Kills per Hour of Flight  12.20    55
Kills Hit Percentage      15.32    29
Kill Points               37912.37  108
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                                               211 Total in 13 hours 21 mins

Ok these are my tour stats from march i finished the tour ranked 29th in fighter mode.


Late War Tour 98 Fighter Scores for A8Nisky
 Score   Rank   
Kills per Death + 1 5.62       92
Kills per Sortie 1.63           277
Kills per Hour of Flight 9.79 162
Kills Hit Percentage 12.57    91
Kill Points 51309.18            89

This makes no sence to me if you look at SHawks compared to mine he outclasses me everywhere except kill points. Any one care to take a jab at explaining that?
Right now the kill points are the determining factor between these two scores, but maybe its because its from a different tour.
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Re: Scoring System
« Reply #93 on: October 18, 2008, 04:48:56 PM »
Or it could change on a daily /weekly basis? so there would be #1's for different modes (Fighter/Attack etc) That way there would be a lot of names up on the web page and make the score guys feel better.
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Re: Scoring System
« Reply #94 on: October 18, 2008, 06:05:02 PM »
Ok these are my tour stats from march i finished the tour ranked 29th in fighter mode.


Late War Tour 98 Fighter Scores for A8Nisky
 Score   Rank   
Kills per Death + 1 5.62       92
Kills per Sortie 1.63           277
Kills per Hour of Flight 9.79 162
Kills Hit Percentage 12.57    91
Kill Points 51309.18            89

This makes no sence to me if you look at SHawks compared to mine he outclasses me everywhere except kill points. Any one care to take a jab at explaining that?
Right now the kill points are the determining factor between these two scores, but maybe its because its from a different tour.




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I can explain. Shawk knows how to do it and you don't.

The only reason you scored so well or even ever score well is because you use a 2nd acct. to vulch yourself with.

I Should mention,  Our CO at the time wanted to hide this and I was booted because of this. I don't agree with this behavior or that he was letting you get away with it against my recommendation  to have you removed from the XO position.  I also do not agree with you repeatedly shooting down Rook missions while an A8 in Bishland.
 I should also mention so as not to discredit all of the A8's just because of this one dweeb, NO OTHER A8 has ever been involved with any type of Dweebery or disrespect for the game as you have. I repeat...NO other A8 has done this or any of the other thing he has been involved in. With this lone exception, The A8's are and will continue to be an honorable and respectful squad.
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Re: Scoring System
« Reply #95 on: October 18, 2008, 06:08:49 PM »
....has anyone seen may can of Extra Strength Care???

The scoring system is there to give dweebs something to argue about. It does it's job VERY well.  :devil

BTW, you might want to avoid trying to tell HT that his scoring system is broken....it ain't wise to tug on Superman's cape. :D

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« Reply #96 on: October 18, 2008, 06:27:11 PM »
This thread just became interesting. :) Care to comment nisky?
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Re: Scoring System
« Reply #97 on: October 18, 2008, 06:27:27 PM »
 :O WOW! Look at all this information :O You could fill a textbook with it.

The only score I really care about is dropping in on someones six and making them squirm for a while.Then close in to about 200 or 300 and blast em. It makes me happy. :)

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Re: Scoring System
« Reply #98 on: October 18, 2008, 06:34:30 PM »
Obviously ace pilot isn't very good at ramming.

[EDIT]  Oops... forgot.  This is gonna get good.  Popcorn?
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Re: Scoring System
« Reply #99 on: October 18, 2008, 06:56:06 PM »
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Re: Scoring System
« Reply #100 on: October 18, 2008, 07:39:58 PM »
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Re: Scoring System
« Reply #101 on: October 18, 2008, 08:46:21 PM »
Tool! Bravo! That has to be the biggest dish of 'pwn' I have ever seen on the forums.

Even better that it involved someone vulching a second account.

You've had many names nisky and this is one of them.

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Re: Scoring System
« Reply #102 on: October 19, 2008, 04:50:23 PM »
This discussion has gone completely off course....but I don't care anymore!!! Off with Nisky's head!  :lol :aok :lol

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Re: Scoring System
« Reply #103 on: October 20, 2008, 09:52:00 AM »
grizz441: you claim each stat is 20% of scoring that is incorrect.

Assume some one flys 1 perfect sortie.
After the first 1 hour of the tour his over all rank could look something like this.

Kills per Death + 1 1
Kills per Sortie 5.63           1
Kills per Hour of Flight 9.79 1
Kills Hit Percentage 12.57    1
Kill Points 2309.18            1

Overall Ranking total 5 over all rank #1

Now after a few days of other people playing his score would look like this
Kills per Death + 1               1
Kills per Sortie 5.63             1
Kills per Hour of Flight 9.79   1
Kills Hit Percentage 12.57     1
Kill Points 2309.18            1500

Overall Ranking total 1504 over all rank #200

As you SHOULD be able to see, you have to do well in all categories.  And I would not view 1500 Vs 5 as 20% of your score. A person ranking #100 in all categories could easily beat you if you do not fly again.


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Re: Scoring System
« Reply #104 on: October 20, 2008, 11:12:28 AM »
grizz441: you claim each stat is 20% of scoring that is incorrect.

Assume some one flys 1 perfect sortie.
After the first 1 hour of the tour his over all rank could look something like this.

Kills per Death + 1 1
Kills per Sortie 5.63           1
Kills per Hour of Flight 9.79 1
Kills Hit Percentage 12.57    1
Kill Points 2309.18            1

Overall Ranking total 5 over all rank #1

Now after a few days of other people playing his score would look like this
Kills per Death + 1               1
Kills per Sortie 5.63             1
Kills per Hour of Flight 9.79   1
Kills Hit Percentage 12.57     1
Kill Points 2309.18            1500

Overall Ranking total 1504 over all rank #200

As you SHOULD be able to see, you have to do well in all categories.  And I would not view 1500 Vs 5 as 20% of your score. A person ranking #100 in all categories could easily beat you if you do not fly again.


HiTech

Yeah I see your point if you are in the lower percentile of points with milked stats, but if you want a great example of the problem I speak of, take a minute to look up Amsoil21's fighter score this campaign.  We are on day 20 and I think he is ranked #2 in fighter still with a very limited number of sorties flown compared to the other top pilots focusing on fighter.  It's pretty easy to look at the clipboard map and only take a plane up in Fighter Mode when a vulch fest is about to commence; do this 20-30 times a campaign and you are a Top 5 fighter.

Anyways, thanks for replying HiTech, it's nice to hear some words from you other than <check 6!>  :lol

<EDIT> I grabbed Amsoil21's stats so you don't have to look them up.

Kills per Death + 1    17.00    10
Kills per Sortie            5.67      5
Kills per Hour of Flight    14.76    33
Kills Hit Percentage    23.87    8
Kill Points                    20679.11    139

Sorties 12
Landed 9

He's only flown 12 sorties and is competing for #1 fighter.  If he can vulch 6-8 more 10 kill missions, he'll win fighter by only having flown 20 missions.
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