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Offline Hristo

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« on: September 12, 2000, 05:25:00 AM »
... Me 410

I remember Pyro said he would like to model it. It was long time ago, nothing still.

So, when ?

Imagine, we could try MK 103, BK 5 and various combinations of MG  151/20, MK 108, MG 131, MG 17.

And the barbettes...would be nice.

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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2000, 05:33:00 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2000, 06:25:00 AM »
Hristo here's the ord list I've got for the Me-410:

Me-410 Rustsatz kits: added in addition of standard armament except where noted.

B6-R2: 2, Mk 108 30mm cannons in the bomb bay. Aircraft fitted with Zaunkonig radar in the nose. All normal nose armament deleted.
R2: 2, 30mm Mk. 108 cannons in the bomb bay in addition to normal armament.
R3: 2, 30mm Mk. 103 cannons in the bomb bay in addition to normal armament.
R4: 2, 20mm M.G. 151/20 20mm cannons in the bomb bay, 2 M.G. 151/20 20mm cannons in a pod on the belly behind the bomb bay in addition to normal armament.
U2-R5: 4, M.G. 151/20 20mm cannons in the bomb bay, 2 M.G. 17 7.92mm machine guns in the nose in addition to normal armament
R6: 2, M.G. 151/20 20mm cannons in the bomb bay in addition to normal armament.
B2-U4: 1, Bk 5 50mm cannon in the bomb bay. M.G. 17 machine guns deleted. Occasionally a Bk 3.7 37mm cannon replaced the Bk 5.
R7: All nose armament deleted in favor of reconnaissance cameras.
B-5: Tail guns replaced by a 187 gal. fuel tank. Additional fuel tank mounted in bomb bay. All ordinance carried externally.
Single 1,000kg SB 1000/410 bomb.
Single LT 5b torpedo [1,984 lbs].
Single LT 5i torpedo [1,675 lbs].
2x BT 200 or BT 400 torpedoes.
Single SC 1800 bomb.
Single 780kg SB 800 RS Kurt bomb.
B-1: M.G. 17 machine guns replaced with M.G. 131 guns
B1-U2: M.G. 17 machine guns replaced by M.G. 131 guns. 2, M.G. 151/20 20mm cannons installed in the bomb bay.
B-2/U-2: M.G. 17 machine guns removed. WB containers installed in the bomb bay. Options included:
2x 30mm Mk 108 cannons
2x 30mm Mk 103 cannons
4x 20mm M.G. 151/20 cannons


External ordinance:
2x 300 liter drop tanks
4x WGr. 21 rockets
6x 40mm 39M rockets
2x 250 or 500kg bombs

Typical bomb loads [internal]:
8x 50kg
2x 250kg
2x 500kg

Most of the M.G. 151/20 gun options had 250 rounds per gun. One had 350 rounds per gun, but I can't remember which. Note the R3 option: 2, 30mm Mk 103 cannons...

There is a famous picture of a revolving rocket launcher in the nose of a Me-410. That was a test aircraft. That load-out option was never mass produced due to extensive airframe damage suffered while test firing. All further tests were abandoned.

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P.S. I've posted cockpit shots of the Me-410 here before. Just run a search and you'll find 'em.

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« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2000, 07:55:00 AM »
 
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And the barbettes...would be nice.

Hmmm,

I had no idea that Barbie had an ME410?
Let's see, I have the Beach House, the Dune Buggy and the Easy Bake Oven but no Me-410.
Is that included in the Luftwaffa Uber Barbie kit? Frankly I think Barbie is overmodelled. I alway's thought Ken looked a little suspicious, but who would have thought little frauline Barbie the Jabo pilot.

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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2000, 03:46:00 PM »
I would love to see a Me410

Great guns, fairly fast (about same as un-WEP'd F4U), and it just looks cool.  

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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2000, 06:04:00 PM »
The guns have been a challange in the past. The mk103 will be harder to include in the game then the 410 I bet..

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« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2000, 12:51:00 AM »
Now it seems quite a challenge to model it, with all the options.

Cool plane indeed.

Too bad we will be seeing just another US plane instead  .

What was it ? Hellcat ? P 40 ? A-26 something ?

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« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2000, 03:00:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by Hristo:
Now it seems quite a challenge to model it, with all the options.

Cool plane indeed.

Too bad we will be seeing just another US plane instead   .

What was it ? Hellcat ? P 40 ? A-26 something ?

Call the A-26 "just another US plane" again and I'll steal one, replace the falsie fiftys, load it up and strafe ya down  

OTOH the data for most US planes is readily available, reducing modeling time and implementation. It's not like their trying to step on anyone's toes, but, when you can get a few planes out quickly, why not?

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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2000, 12:32:00 AM »
...especially if those are uber rides for the US players...

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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2000, 12:39:00 AM »
oh, btw, each of these Me 410 characteristics alone would be interesting enough to model it:

- loadout options
- barbettes
- nose window

- and not to be forgotten, the MK 103 x 2  

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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2000, 02:37:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by F4UDOA:
Hmmm,

I had no idea that Barbie had an ME410?
Let's see, I have the Beach House, the Dune Buggy and the Easy Bake Oven but no Me-410.
Is that included in the Luftwaffa Uber Barbie kit? Frankly I think Barbie is overmodelled. I alway's thought Ken looked a little suspicious, but who would have thought little frauline Barbie the Jabo pilot.

Later
F4UDOA


No wonder you don't like guns. They would interfere with your Barbie and Ken collection!  

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