Dar bar updates

[Bruv119]

To be returned back to the normal MA settings.

Someone said it is down to a configuration error on certain maps but every map I seem to play on does it.   

It seems to be extremely delayed as in Scenarios.  I'd be thinking no bad guys in this sector and be merrily on my way and find mr uber stick in his chic 16 circling his field 5k (lets say draggon in this example) higher than me. 

Or when i'm RTB with my 20+ kills and stick her on autopilot.  No dar here im safe as houses.  Then have some guy spraying my lazy bellybutton when im paying no attention to the screen.  Has happened twice this tour already!!   

I mean I have no problems with the extended dar circles or the NOE changes I just didn't see this KEY bit of information any where in the release notes (apologies if I missed it.)

For us longer term players who have map reading down to an art form it is really messing with my expectations.  If HTC wants it this way so there is an element of surprise and we have to sit paranoid in our cockpits 24/7 rather than rely on scanty radar information, then i'm cool with that and will suck it up.   If it is fudged however I wish for it to be returned to normal so I can breath easier.   

[Jayhawk]

Agreed, I've seen some weird things with dar.  All I'd like is some consistency, rather than just a guessing game.

[Bruv119]

all im asking for Jayhawk!

I mean with the extended dar he knows im coming and exactly where.  I do the decent thing by flying to his base little courtesy of knowing he is there somewhere too would be nice.  Still pwned him tho.

Like the other day we did a fast paced Mossie mission went 8-10k tops and charged at an enemy field.  No dar in enemy grid until visual on field to find 2 LA7's co-alt with a 109 already running for the heavens out the other side of field and 3 gv's already on base / driving to town.  when it updated to double ours I was like   "oh they were expecting us"  and we all died in a glorious fashion.

[RufusLeaking]

I've seen some radar anomolies since the radar change, also.  I occassionally run into planes at altitude that show no dar bar in sector.

No clue if it is specific to a map.

Neither the radius of the dar circles nor the lowered dot altitude should have anything to do with the sector dar bar.  The only change is the lowest altitude that determines when one generates a dar bar.

Maybe it happened before the changes and I was not paying attention.

[gyrene81]

Agreed, I've seen some weird things with dar.  All I'd like is some consistency, rather than just a guessing game.

LOL, I think your statement and the OP are saying the direct opposite of what others are saying about the new dar settings.

[Lusche]

LOL, I think your statement and the OP are saying the direct opposite of what others are saying about the new dar settings.

Don't mix up a game bug with the general effects of the new system by design

[gyrene81]

Don't mix up a game bug with the general effects of the new system by design

How do you know it's a bug? Could be intentional, HTC doesn't tell use everything that goes on behind the scenes.

And I was commenting on Jayhawks use of the word "consistency", when others are wanting the capbility for more randomness...a la holes in the dar.

[Lusche]

How do you know it's a bug? Could be intentional, HTC doesn't tell use everything that goes on behind the scenes.

And I was commenting on Jayhawks use of the word "consistency", when others are wanting the capbility for more randomness...a la holes in the dar.

It is a bug. Just like the phantom darbars  and phantom dots we once had every tuesday.

And we "others" are not asking for more randomness. The things you call "holes" in the dar are not random at all.

[gyrene81]

And we "others" are not asking for more randomness. The things you call "holes" in the dar are not random at all.

Yes you are, the "holes" in the dar would allow more random behavior rather than the current dar setup.

[Lusche]

Yes you are, the "holes" in the dar would allow more random behavior rather than the current dar setup.

Now we are getting from random holes to random behaviour... whatever that means 

[Jayhawk]

I'm completely confused what the "holes" discussion means.  I just wanted the dar system to be standard, or to at least understand it.  I don't want one person to be able to jump to 10K while the next guy shows dar at 3k, and the next at 500ft.  Just want it to be standardized so it's actually worth something.

[flatiron1]

It was messed up in early war tonight. The enemy dar bar would not indicate planes up until the enemy base flashed it seems.

[321BAR]

what i want are dar blind spots rigged into the terrain mapping... other than that, consistency is necessary

[Krusty]

None of you really understand the options available.

There is a DELAY in the dar. It used to be 5 or 10 seconds or so. Now it's a minute or two I think.

You're seeing "bugs" that are really late readouts on radar.

Just imagine it takes time for the radar hut screen-readers to relay up the chain of command what he's seeing, for that info to get out to you.

It's part of the balance from the increase in radar coverage (you see more, but it's also delayed from when you see it). It stood out to me rather quickly, and it should to anybody with some FSO or scenario experience, as in those arenas these types of settings find more use.

[Lusche]

None of you really understand the options available.

There is a DELAY in the dar. It used to be 5 or 10 seconds or so. Now it's a minute or two I think.

You're seeing "bugs" that are really late readouts on radar.

And yes, that's the bug,  particularly as it's not consistent at all. On some days planes make darbar a few moments after they break 500, but I have run into 4 Spit's at 15k(!) with no darbar in sector