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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #120 on: October 14, 2011, 08:50:38 PM »
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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #121 on: October 15, 2011, 09:41:14 AM »

How can this not be a fun fighter. EW it would be one of the hardest hitting with 4 20mm cannons. and in the MA well some of us are crazy  :x

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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #122 on: October 15, 2011, 12:48:47 PM »
I recently acquired some of the blueprints:-















The high lift devices were quite extensive and a little similar to a modern airliner. If anyone knows how to recalculate a wing loading with all these both the slats and flaps deployed I'd love to know:-




Prototype in the wind tunnel:-




Random detail shots:-


































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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #123 on: October 15, 2011, 01:11:21 PM »
I call "Photoshop" on this one!  Or maybe just "retouch", depending on when the picture was doctored.






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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #124 on: October 15, 2011, 01:29:11 PM »
I think you're right!  :rofl

Err, I hasten to add I didn't make it  :uhoh
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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #125 on: October 16, 2011, 02:40:54 AM »
Just expanding on the blueprint I already showed above:-



Here are the aerofoil sections at each numbered rib posistion above:-







I thought this information might be helpful for anyone trying to make a 3d model of the aircraft  :pray


Just out of interest, if anyone with a good knowledge of aerodynamics could help I'd really like to calculate, even roughly, what the fully extended flaps and slats would do to the wing loading. I really think this is one of the most interesting features of the aircraft. It's almost like the old fashioned version of swing wings. The Whirlwind's Fowler flap is enormous and extends for more than two thirds of the 45 ft wingspan. Looking at the Imperial War Museum Footage it looks like it extends to just over 45 degrees. Additionally the manual slats are in two parts with the outer section covering half of the total span (with the inner section between the engines and fuselage). The outer section seems to project further than the 109's automatic slats.

How do you work it out? Do I just calculate the additional surface area of the flaps in planform? Surely I need to account for the angle as well. What about the slats, do they add more lift of just increase the angle of alpha before a stall sets in?







Come on HTC, give us the precious  :lol:-





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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #126 on: October 16, 2011, 02:42:48 AM »
mind now = blown.

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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #127 on: October 16, 2011, 05:41:37 AM »
great post, let me reinstall Blender  :D
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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #128 on: November 07, 2011, 06:44:58 AM »
He is something for the skinners if we ever get her...

Whirlwind P7094 " Bellows Argentina".



This was one of 12  purchased by the "Fellowships of the Bellows" for the RAF.


A brief summary of the Squadron's first experiences with Whirlwinds during the period where it re-formed at Drem(June 1940) through to the end of 1941.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/laurieburley/jeff/pdfs/air271550194041summary.pdf





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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #129 on: November 07, 2011, 06:54:11 AM »

"Hints and Tips for Beginners (And Others) in Whirlwind Bombers Attacking Shipping"

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/laurieburley/jeff/pdfs/air271550hintstips.pdf

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Officer it was a 4000 tonner and not a 150 ton coaster. Most Intelligence Officers have
never heard of a ship of more than 1000 tons anyway, and your be able to say “I told you
so” when the combat film comes back."

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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #130 on: November 07, 2011, 06:56:28 AM »
"Summary of Operations with Whirlibombers, 07 November 1942 - 29 November 1943"

With the Whirlibomber finally withdrawn from service to be replaced by the Typhoon, this document summarises the Squadron's operations with Whirlibombers in terms of bombs dropped, casualties inflicted on the enemy, and decorations won.


http://homepage.ntlworld.com/laurieburley/jeff/pdfs/air271550summarywbombers.pdf

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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #131 on: November 07, 2011, 07:25:31 AM »
What if you cross the mossie and the 262?   
You get the Whirlwind!   

I'd certainly vote on the whirlwind without question.
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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #132 on: November 07, 2011, 10:17:08 AM »
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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #133 on: November 07, 2011, 12:57:28 PM »
I'd be happier than a dog with two tails if we got the Whirlwind, but I just don't see it happening chaps, not after the recent plane pole and discussions about holes in the planeset  :cry
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Re: Westland Whirlwind
« Reply #134 on: November 07, 2011, 01:51:07 PM »
It's like a twin-engined Hurri IIc, only faster!


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