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New Computer....please look before I buy Thanks in advance
« on: November 25, 2011, 11:54:32 AM »
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Re: New Computer....please look before I buy Thanks in advance
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2011, 01:12:39 PM »
couple things i notice. virst, you dont have a processor anywhere in that list. look into an Intel i5 with a socket type 1155. also, looking at that os it appears to be an upgrade for windows 7 home premium to professional. you need a powersupply in there too. 600 watt should do it. on that motheboard i didnt check for onboard video because im on my phone, but if there is no VGA youll need a video card. for aces high you wont need anything costing more then 175 USD.  onto the ram, make sure if your board says triple channel support that you get triple channel ram. food for thought. others will be by to make other points and capitalize on this post im sure.
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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2011, 01:17:32 PM »
couple things i notice. virst, you dont have a processor anywhere in that list. look into an Intel i5 with a socket type 1155. also, looking at that os it appears to be an upgrade for windows 7 home premium to professional. you need a powersupply in there too. 600 watt should do it. on that motheboard i didnt check for onboard video because im on my phone, but if there is no VGA youll need a video card. for aces high you wont need anything costing more then 175 USD.  onto the ram, make sure if your board says triple channel support that you get triple channel ram. food for thought. others will be by to make other points and capitalize on this post im sure.

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1000watt power supply too much ?? thats what I currently got down
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Re: New Computer....please look before I buy Thanks in advance
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2011, 01:25:04 PM »
couple things i notice. virst, you dont have a processor anywhere in that list. look into an Intel i5 with a socket type 1155. also, looking at that os it appears to be an upgrade for windows 7 home premium to professional. you need a powersupply in there too. 600 watt should do it. on that motheboard i didnt check for onboard video because im on my phone, but if there is no VGA youll need a video card. for aces high you wont need anything costing more then 175 USD.  onto the ram, make sure if your board says triple channel support that you get triple channel ram. food for thought. others will be by to make other points and capitalize on this post im sure.

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All the parts are listed but there is a big issue: AMD CPU with Intel Motherboard. Have to pick one or the other and I'm not up to date with the latest generation of them. Sandy Bridge upgrade is soon I think? The AMD Bulldozers are out but not sure on specs.
Personally, I would look into a better than Bronze Cert Power Supply. As I recall the Corsair Gold are really good, Seasonic is recommended a lot around here too. For GPU if you stick with Nvidia, EVGA is a personal choice of brand, great warranty and support.
Just a few things I noticed, someone will be along soon. :)
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Re: New Computer....please look before I buy Thanks in advance
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2011, 01:30:53 PM »
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All the parts are listed but there is a big issue: AMD CPU with Intel Motherboard. Have to pick one or the other and I'm not up to date with the latest generation of them. Sandy Bridge upgrade is soon I think? The AMD Bulldozers are out but not sure on specs.
Personally, I would look into a better than Bronze Cert Power Supply. As I recall the Corsair Gold are really good, Seasonic is recommended a lot around here too. For GPU if you stick with Nvidia, EVGA is a personal choice of brand, great warranty and support.
Just a few things I noticed, someone will be along soon. :)

Thank you, that makes sense in your opinion would you stick with AMD or Intel? Ordering from NewEgg.com if you want to stick a link to some of the hardware I'd appreciate it.
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Re: New Computer....please look before I buy Thanks in advance
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2011, 01:49:05 PM »
he has the wrong mobo for that cpu.  cpu will not work on that mobo.  with the money you are spending, i would get a 2500k  cpu would work great on that mobo.  do you have a best buy anywhere near you?  they sell hard drives for 1/2 that price.  or have it delivered to you.


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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2011, 02:11:08 PM »
he has the wrong mobo for that cpu.  cpu will not work on that mobo.  with the money you are spending, i would get a 2500k  cpu would work great on that mobo.  do you have a best buy anywhere near you?  they sell hard drives for 1/2 that price.  or have it delivered to you.


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Thanks Semp I just went to BB and saw one for 79......... -100 off from final price so far.
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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2011, 02:17:06 PM »
The z58 motherboards, these are newer then the 68.

http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/13-128-512-TS?$S300W$ an example for the purpose of showing.

In the past I have gone for xfx or evga for the lifetime grantee. If you planning an upgrade in 3 years or less then there are other doors that open with the 3 year grantee cards.

The 460 and 6850 are midrange cards. The 560 is a better 460.

Then there is the better cards 570, 560 Ti, 6950, 6970.

I would go for the sandy bridge if I was going to spend 200 on CPU and get 4 gig RAM for your windows home office OS. I am guessing its 32 bit OS. Might as well max it out, the prices are cheap enough with the sales.

Get the correct RAM for the motherboard.

I also notice the monitor has 5ms. The 5 ms could cause a bit more latency. 2ms would be better for gaming. ( Don't think it would be necessary) Someone with more knowledge on response times with monitors can add to this.
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2011, 02:43:54 PM »
As mentioned, the 2500k is the processor you want. The z58s are also newer/better, also as mentioned.

You have a 1000Watt PSU. You hardly need that for this basic system. You have a single CPU, a single GPU, 1 HDD, and nothing really needing 1000W of power. You can get a 500W and still be happy. If you want to hedge your bets for future upgrades/additions, go 600-700 range, but save yourself a load of change on this.

Another thought: The NZXT Phantom is a MASSIVELY huge case. I mean MASSIVELY huge. Check the external dimensions. It is mostly a good case, and I have it myself, but darned if it doesn't almost touch the underside of my desk when I set it on the floor. It also is too big to recess under the desk fully. I hate the HDD layout, as there's really no room for the drives and the cables that feed the drives when you close the door. Look into a smaller case, maybe? If you *do* decide to go with the Phantom, get some electrical tape and tape over the blue power LEDs on the fan speed sliders on the top. Black those out entirely. It will save your eyes. Also be VERY careful closing the door until you know it won't snap off your SATA cables on the HD. Get some 90-degree cables if you can.

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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2011, 05:42:09 PM »
Z58???? Im seeing X58
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« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2011, 05:43:10 PM »
personally I'd stay away from AMD and stick with Intel, Read here http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,321918.0.html

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« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2011, 06:01:28 PM »
As mentioned, the 2500k is the processor you want. The z58s are also newer/better, also as mentioned.

You have a 1000Watt PSU. You hardly need that for this basic system. You have a single CPU, a single GPU, 1 HDD, and nothing really needing 1000W of power. You can get a 500W and still be happy. If you want to hedge your bets for future upgrades/additions, go 600-700 range, but save yourself a load of change on this.

Another thought: The NZXT Phantom is a MASSIVELY huge case. I mean MASSIVELY huge. Check the external dimensions. It is mostly a good case, and I have it myself, but darned if it doesn't almost touch the underside of my desk when I set it on the floor. It also is too big to recess under the desk fully. I hate the HDD layout, as there's really no room for the drives and the cables that feed the drives when you close the door. Look into a smaller case, maybe? If you *do* decide to go with the Phantom, get some electrical tape and tape over the blue power LEDs on the fan speed sliders on the top. Black those out entirely. It will save your eyes. Also be VERY careful closing the door until you know it won't snap off your SATA cables on the HD. Get some 90-degree cables if you can.

I have to agree with Krusty and Semp about the processor, but I think the reason why he is going with a 1000 watt is option to upgrade in the future. When I bought my 950 i only had 1 of  each too, and then i bought 2nd vid card 2nd hard drive water cooling lights and 2nd CD/DVD drive, and i still can put a 3rd vid card if needed. Also The case is a monster and lots of airflow, you cant go wrong with the Phantom case.

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« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2011, 07:13:52 PM »
hey Dep,
since the AMD bulldozer is a fail right now, also the phenom2 is an aging architecture, i would say get an intel-based system. I5-2500K sounds fair, if youre not converting a LOT of videos, you really dont need the i7.
Choose your motherboard very carefully, avoid every compatibility problems!
As for the GPU, i wouldnt buy the gtx 560, thats just a 460 OC-ed. The 560 ti looks much better, if you have a couple more bux for it. Or a hd 6950  : )
1000W PSUs are designed to run tripple-SLIed systems. Even if youre planning a massive upgrade, a 700-750W brand one should be enough to run 2 gtx560ti-s without a problem. But then make sure your mobo has two "full" x16 pci express slots.
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« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2011, 07:23:01 PM »
Z58???? Im seeing X58
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« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2011, 07:27:25 PM »
hey Dep,
since the AMD bulldozer is a fail right now, also the phenom2 is an aging architecture, i would say get an intel-based system. I5-2500K sounds fair, if youre not converting a LOT of videos, you really dont need the i7.
Choose your motherboard very carefully, avoid every compatibility problems!
As for the GPU, i wouldnt buy the gtx 560, thats just a 460 OC-ed. The 560 ti looks much better, if you have a couple more bux for it. Or a hd 6950  : )
1000W PSUs are designed to run tripple-SLIed systems. Even if youre planning a massive upgrade, a 700-750W brand one should be enough to run 2 gtx560ti-s without a problem. But then make sure your mobo has two "full" x16 pci express slots.
Best luck!

I wouldn't say that the buldozer is a failure, seems to me from what I have read the CPU does fine with multithreaded applications.
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