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Offline Pand

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Please keep HTC Website and HELP documentation accurate
« on: August 31, 2012, 03:40:47 PM »
Please keep HTC Website and HELP documentation accurate.   :bolt:

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Re: Please keep HTC Website and HELP documentation accurate
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2012, 04:37:29 PM »
Please keep HTC Website and HELP documentation accurate.   :bolt:

Good wish.   :lol

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Re: Please keep HTC Website and HELP documentation accurate
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2012, 05:40:47 PM »
i think hitech responded to a similar request recently.. essentially he said trying to keep the documentation updated would eat into time he could spend developing the game itself.

i will search for the thread.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,337642.msg4448381.html#msg4448381

     I think my wish then is for a consolidated, concise and clear instructional manual of how the game operates.

Be careful what you wish for. Think how a manual would prevent quick changes like this one. It would change 15 mins of work into 2 hours because of having to keep the manual completely up to date.

So the choice would be made not to make this type of change.

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Re: Please keep HTC Website and HELP documentation accurate
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2012, 06:08:58 PM »
Come now, old timers know better.   :devil


They update and fix things pretty fast/timely.  They just don't have the time to waste/spare in constantly verifying that everything is accurate and up to date.

IE:  "It's broken, fix it." gets a post-it note on someone's desk.  "The speedcharts for the Fw190D and P-51D are off by X mph at Y altitude due to a recent update/adjsutment/change.  Could you please update them by in/decreasing the speed shown on the chart." gets the chart adjusted and updated to the website in a normal afternoon.

IE2:  "It's wrong, make it right." or "Under the Help section on the website (www.hitechcreations.com/whoknowswhere/thispage.html) in the third paragraph, your 'rifs' are mistakenly listed as 'rafs'."
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Re: Please keep HTC Website and HELP documentation accurate
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2012, 07:26:25 PM »
Don't know how many of you all have done software development.... but the hard part is coding the changes and implementing fixes.

The 10 seconds to update the website with what you did is the easy part.   :bhead

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Re: Please keep HTC Website and HELP documentation accurate
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2012, 07:44:04 PM »
Don't know how many of you all have done software development.... but the hard part is coding the changes and implementing fixes.

The 10 seconds to update the website with what you did is the easy part.   :bhead

and I bet the ww1 arena has more people there than those who check the wiki for whatever info they may find.

in a furball all those nice charts go out the window.  the charts dont take into account how much skill the other player has, or as I find more consistent now, you will never know how much alcohol he has consumed on a saturday night  :D.

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Re: Please keep HTC Website and HELP documentation accurate
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2012, 07:56:14 PM »
and I bet the ww1 arena has more people there than those who check the wiki for whatever info they may find.

in a furball all those nice charts go out the window.  the charts dont take into account how much skill the other player has, or as I find more consistent now, you will never know how much alcohol he has consumed on a saturday night  :D.

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Hey, when was that moved to Saturdays? 
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Re: Please keep HTC Website and HELP documentation accurate
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2012, 10:05:55 PM »
Don't know how many of you all have done software development.... but the hard part is coding the changes and implementing fixes.

The 10 seconds to update the website with what you did is the easy part.   :bhead


i just quoted the guy who is the developer of this game, and he said keeping the documentation updated continuously would interfere with quick fixes and changes.


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Re: Please keep HTC Website and HELP documentation accurate
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2012, 11:29:08 PM »
Don't know how many of you all have done software development.... but the hard part is coding the changes and implementing fixes.

The 10 seconds to update the website with what you did is the easy part.   :bhead

Sounds easy, but it's not.   With iterative development, what you code keeps changing and to continuously find and revise the documentation takes a material amount of time.  The best answer is not to have the coders document, but instead have others/users do it based on their understanding of how it works, once it's fully implemented.  The documentation tends to be more user friendly then to.  It does take time to figure out how to best present the logic of a program into a meaningful representation of what is happening.

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Re: Please keep HTC Website and HELP documentation accurate
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2012, 07:09:01 AM »
Don't know how many of you all have done software development.... but the hard part is coding the changes and implementing fixes.

The 10 seconds to update the website with what you did is the easy part.   :bhead

quite. since when did it take 1 3/4 hours to type a paragraph on a web page?
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Re: Please keep HTC Website and HELP documentation accurate
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2012, 04:24:33 PM »
in a furball all those nice charts go out the window.  the charts dont take into account how much skill the other player has, or as I find more consistent now, you will never know how much alcohol he has consumed on a saturday night  :D.

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No they don't, I have a laptop next to my desk with it open to the charts 90% of the time for the ones I don't have memorized.

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Re: Please keep HTC Website and HELP documentation accurate
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2012, 04:25:35 PM »
Sounds easy, but it's not.   With iterative development, what you code keeps changing and to continuously find and revise the documentation takes a material amount of time. 
And this is your professional experience talking?

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Re: Please keep HTC Website and HELP documentation accurate
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2012, 04:28:10 PM »
And this is your professional experience talking?

It is. :)


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Re: Please keep HTC Website and HELP documentation accurate
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2012, 04:37:04 PM »
See rule #4
« Last Edit: September 01, 2012, 08:11:02 PM by hitech »

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Re: Please keep HTC Website and HELP documentation accurate
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2012, 04:41:21 PM »
It is. :)
Do you have a resume you could share with me via PM?  We're always looking for good tech writers to do this specific function. 

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