Kamikaze planes

[Franz Von Werra]

For existing fighters, uhh, Japanese fighters... another BOMB LOAD possibility?


Or that cherry blossom thing that looks like a German V1 with a pilot. 'Idiot Bomb' referred to by the US.
Yokosuka MXY7 Ohka - 852 built!!!


Just info from Wikipedia:

47 ships were destroyed, from PT boats to escort carriers.
300 more ships damaged.
4000 pilots sacrificed.
14% hit a target.
The explosives were stuff from bombs to torpedoes to extra fuel tanks? These planes were better armored.

One guy: Kamikaze pilot Ensign Kiyoshi Ogawa, who damaged the carrier USS Bunker Hill during Operation Kikusui No. 6 on May 11th, 1945




HOW TO KILL THOSE PESKY 5" GUNS?  
YEAH, YOU GET A DEATH!
NO YOU DONT HAVE TO FLY BACK TO BASE TO LAND!
Classified as a bomber or attack plane?

[Tank-Ace]

Craptastic idea. This would entirely replace bombing, as its so much easier. Even if you perked the hell out of it, perks are largely meaningless, as they are easy enough to come by.

[Ack-Ack]

stupid wish.

ack-ack

[Franz Von Werra]

Yeah but you get a death, score goes down?
Historical wish! Stupid history? Maybe not if they had done this stuff sooner!

MORE OF THEM BUILT THAN THE SPIT16 !!! 852 vs uhh 12?
AND THEY SAW COMBAT, NOT LIKE THE SPIT16 !!!

HOW ABOUT THEY HAVE A REEEALLY LOW ENY? Maybe 2 eny points?
When your team is losing terribly, then you can up it?

Yeah, a Japanese Jet too! Neato!
ONLY TWO JETS TO SEE COMBAT: 262, volksjager? Horton? and Ohka!
I admit I would rather be in the 262 than the Ohka!  
yeah imma stinker!  

[Ack-Ack]

Yeah but you get a death, score goes down?

MORE OF THEM BUILT THAN THE SPIT16 !!! 852 vs uhh 12?
AND THEY SAW COMBAT, NOT LIKE THE SPIT16 !!!

Oh please Schlowy, stop with the BS figures you've pulled out of your arse.  There were hundreds of Spitfire Mk XVI's built, this has already been proven in other threads.  I'd ask you to provide some facts but we all know that facts is something you've always been short on.

HOW ABOUT THEY HAVE A REEEALLY LOW ENY? Maybe 2 eny points?
When your team is losing terribly, then you can up it?

It's still a stupid wish and quite frankly, really not surprised that it came from you Schlowy.

ack-ack

[Franz Von Werra]

How many were made before the end may 45' though? 12? that never saw combat?
Where is yee source?
How about we can only fly ONE PER MAP, so like having only one life per day?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamikaze

[Ack-Ack]

How many were made before the end may 45' though? 12? that never saw combat?
Where is yee source?
How about we can only fly ONE PER MAP, so like having only one life per day?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamikaze

Since you're the one that made the claim of only 12 built and never saw combat, it is up to you to prove your claim.  Please, show us the data that backs it up.

ack-ack

[Butcher]

Oh please Schlowy, stop with the BS figures you've pulled out of your arse.  There were hundreds of Spitfire Mk XVI's built, this has already been proven in other threads.  I'd ask you to provide some facts but we all know that facts is something you've always been short on.

It's still a stupid wish and quite frankly, really not surprised that it came from you Schlowy.

ack-ack

I was wondering who Franz was, thanks.

[Franz Von Werra]

Yeah, I heard he was a good pilot!

How about these are available ONLY from ports?
V-bases have storch's, guessing that Ports have a storch hangar also?
Add the Ohka to ports!!!

[Karnak]

There were about 4,500 Spitfire LF.Mk IX/Mk XVIs made.  They are the same plane.  LF.Mk IXs entered combat in 1943.  LF.Mk IXes in mid 1944.  Mk XVIs in mid 1944 as well, but as noted, they are the same thing, just with an American built engine that needed different tools to work on, hence the new mark number.  They came off the assembly line intermingled with the mark not even known until the Rolls Royce Merlin 66 or Packard Merlin 266 was mounted.

There was, interestingly, a slight difference.  The Packard Merlin 266 had a critical altitude 1000ft higher than the Rolls Royce Merlin 66.  In AH the Mk XVI's critical altitude matches that of the Merlin 66, not the Merlin 266, and that means the Mk XVI in AH is actually an LF.Mk IXe, which first saw combat in the first half of 1944.



On topic:

What would an Ohka at the port do?  It can't launch itself.  It needs to be dropped by a mothership, a modified G4M2 (we have the G4M1 in AH, not the right kind of Betty) about 20, IIRC, miles from its target.

[Franz Von Werra]

The point is that it would be closer to enemy ships than most.
Airbases and V-bases would means it could wind up used against ground targets like a laser guided ground attack bomb.
I think it was vs ships only?

It would do the same thing as the shore batteries, attack ships! Put them a ramp or something, give the ports something unique, even the ships spawn out at sea!

[nrshida]

I think it's a great idea. In keeping with realism you should be able to do this precisely once in Aces High and then your MAC address goes on an official list of 'dead' players and you're banned from flying ever again.

[Ack-Ack]

The point is that it would be closer to enemy ships than most.
Airbases and V-bases would means it could wind up used against ground targets like a laser guided ground attack bomb.
I think it was vs ships only?

It would do the same thing as the shore batteries, attack ships! Put them a ramp or something, give the ports something unique, even the ships spawn out at sea!

You fail to understand that the Ohka was airborne launched from a plane that is not modeled in this game, it wasn't launched like a V-1 was.

ack-ack

[Butcher]

Im trying to figure out how you can mod the Ohka, Its a separate aircraft that carried its pilot - which was attached to a betty bomber flown by a crew.
How would that get modeled? Its not exactly a gunner position, you don't get to switch your position - one person would need to be sitting in the Ohka.

I see no reason for kamikaze planes in aces high we have enough suicide lancs and 51s.

Just put two 1,000lb bombs on a P-51 and dive into a carrier without bailing out or slowing down.

[Karnak]

Im trying to figure out how you can mod the Ohka, Its a separate aircraft that carried its pilot - which was attached to a betty bomber flown by a crew.
How would that get modeled? Its not exactly a gunner position, you don't get to switch your position - one person would need to be sitting in the Ohka.

I don't think it should be added, but if it were I'd say a perk price for the Ohka paid for by the Ohka pilot and then the Ohka pilot would need to ride in the Ohka's cockpit while the G4M2 pilot carried him to the drop location and released him.  He'd be putting his trust in the G4M2 pilot to not throw his perks away.

The perks would be lost of course.