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Offline bozon

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This is how you kill a yak - pictorial.
« on: January 24, 2015, 04:50:40 PM »
Who said that the Yak3 is a flying tank?
With a little bit of dedication and a store of ammunition, even a mosquito can bring down a tiny 2 ton plane with barely any armor.

In the following example I was firing the 4*20mm ONLY, so all the hit sprites are from the hispanos.

1st volley, hits to cockpit, back and tail:


WTF? fuel leak from right wing? OK shoot some more!
2nd volley, engine cowling:


3rd volley, cockpit, back, left wing-root... Russian Christmas tree:


Only visible result is oil leak and a fuel leak from the left as well.
4th, try more hits to the left wing:


continued volley, maybe the wingtip is weaker? no...


Lets blast the F out of the tail!


Yey! that took off one stab and its elevator...
More to the left wing:


More to the right to even things up:


AHA little Yak! you lost your aileron!
Lets hit the right wing some more... still not enough...  :mad:


10th time lucky:


'BOUT BLOODY TIME!
Lets take his left wing off for good measure:


NO!... titanium on the left denies hispanos.

TOTAL:
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AT LEAST 23 hispano hits and the Yak3 was still flying. In fact, it was even shooting at another plane some point in the middle, with both wings leaking fuel, smoke trailing from the engine and only 1 stabilizer still attached. I say at least 23 hits because this is what I can count from the screenshots. There were many overlapping hits that are difficult to account for (4 nose hispanos from 200-300 yards...) and some that I missed in the screen shots. An additional volley of 5-6 more hits finally removed the right wing.

This is not simply an issue of distributed hits. The right wing took more than 5 20mm hits and kept intact. The left took at least 12 hits that I can count and then 4 more hits after the right wing fell off, but the only damage was that the landing gear fell out... the cockpit area took multiple hits and there was no sign of pilot wounds.

This is an extreme case, but generally Yaks take a lot of hits to bring down, which I suppose is correct since the Russians designed the Yak3 based on the IL2, with some added armor.

« Last Edit: January 24, 2015, 04:53:34 PM by bozon »
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Re: This is how you kill a yak - pictorial.
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2015, 04:54:03 PM »
Should have just used the pea shooters, they would have been quicker than that anomaly

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Re: This is how you kill a yak - pictorial.
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2015, 05:29:49 PM »
From my experience in the game, Yaks have always taken one hell of a beating.  They seem even tougher than P-47s and F6Fs. 
And (maybe only because of their ability to saddle up) their guns seem to hit very hard as well. 

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Re: This is how you kill a yak - pictorial.
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2015, 01:41:37 AM »
Yaks especially Yak3 take way to many bullets :mad:
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Re: This is how you kill a yak - pictorial.
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2015, 02:37:01 AM »
Who said that the Yak3 is a flying tank?
With a little bit of dedication and a store of ammunition, even a mosquito can bring down a tiny 2 ton plane with barely any armor.

In the following example I was firing the 4*20mm ONLY, so all the hit sprites are from the hispanos.

1st volley, hits to cockpit, back and tail:
(Image removed from quote.)

WTF? fuel leak from right wing? OK shoot some more!
2nd volley, engine cowling:
(Image removed from quote.)

3rd volley, cockpit, back, left wing-root... Russian Christmas tree:
(Image removed from quote.)

Only visible result is oil leak and a fuel leak from the left as well.
4th, try more hits to the left wing:
(Image removed from quote.)

continued volley, maybe the wingtip is weaker? no...
(Image removed from quote.)

Lets blast the F out of the tail!
(Image removed from quote.)

Yey! that took off one stab and its elevator...
More to the left wing:
(Image removed from quote.)

More to the right to even things up:
(Image removed from quote.)

AHA little Yak! you lost your aileron!
Lets hit the right wing some more... still not enough...  :mad:
(Image removed from quote.)

10th time lucky:
(Image removed from quote.)

'BOUT BLOODY TIME!
Lets take his left wing off for good measure:
(Image removed from quote.)

NO!... titanium on the left denies hispanos.

TOTAL:
===========
AT LEAST 23 hispano hits and the Yak3 was still flying. In fact, it was even shooting at another plane some point in the middle, with both wings leaking fuel, smoke trailing from the engine and only 1 stabilizer still attached. I say at least 23 hits because this is what I can count from the screenshots. There were many overlapping hits that are difficult to account for (4 nose hispanos from 200-300 yards...) and some that I missed in the screen shots. An additional volley of 5-6 more hits finally removed the right wing.

This is not simply an issue of distributed hits. The right wing took more than 5 20mm hits and kept intact. The left took at least 12 hits that I can count and then 4 more hits after the right wing fell off, but the only damage was that the landing gear fell out... the cockpit area took multiple hits and there was no sign of pilot wounds.

This is an extreme case, but generally Yaks take a lot of hits to bring down, which I suppose is correct since the Russians designed the Yak3 based on the IL2, with some added armor.



Have you filmed this? Maybe send it to HTC.

I just think... also the collision is computed on YOUR side maybe the damage on the other and there is some lag?

BTW - poor yak... You made a strainer from it... plywood strainer
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Re: This is how you kill a yak - pictorial.
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2015, 09:18:46 AM »
The screenshots were taken with the film viewer, so I have a film. Connection was smooth and the yak was not micro-warping so I do not think it is a packet-loss issue. The whole thing lasted about half a minute and he was maneuvering the whole time, so it is not lag between hits and damage reported.

This is s yak issue. Of course I cannot prove anything because there is a lot of randomality involved. Some yaks die in one volley, but adamantium armor effect seem to be a lot more common in yaks than other planes. I saved the film in order to count the hits on various parts and see that it is not the "distributed damage due to small size" effect
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Re: This is how you kill a yak - pictorial.
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2015, 05:33:08 PM »
Its a 2000 kilo aircraft, sacrificing much armor for it's agility, something is wrong.

My ammo last for 6 Lancasters, or one Yak3.
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Re: This is how you kill a yak - pictorial.
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2015, 05:36:12 PM »
Just aim for his head works for me.   

You've hit everything else.
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Re: This is how you kill a yak - pictorial.
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2015, 03:38:10 AM »
Just aim for his head works for me.   

You've hit everything else.
Look at the first 3 screenshots. The pilot should have had a head to shoot at anymore after these.
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Click!>> "So, you want to fly the wooden wonder" - <<click!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGOWswdzGQs

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Re: This is how you kill a yak - pictorial.
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2015, 11:20:16 AM »
Everyone knows  yak3 drivers are only a foot high and sit on cushions to see out. if you hit him, you only hit the Unobtanium helmet to which the zero-gravity device is connected.
Best way is to kill the cushion so he does not see out and fly into the moon or ground.

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Re: This is how you kill a yak - pictorial.
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2015, 11:34:49 AM »
 :rofl
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Re: This is how you kill a yak - pictorial.
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2015, 11:36:20 AM »
Everyone knows  yak3 drivers are only a foot high and sit on cushions to see out. if you hit him, you only hit the Unobtanium helmet to which the zero-gravity device is connected.
Best way is to kill the cushion so he does not see out and fly into the moon or ground.



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Re: This is how you kill a yak - pictorial.
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2015, 01:52:22 PM »
Everyone knows  yak3 drivers are only a foot high and sit on cushions to see out. if you hit him, you only hit the Unobtanium helmet to which the zero-gravity device is connected.
Best way is to kill the cushion so he does not see out and fly into the moon or ground.

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Re: This is how you kill a yak - pictorial.
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2015, 04:57:01 PM »
Everyone knows  yak3 drivers are only a foot high and sit on cushions to see out. if you hit him, you only hit the Unobtanium helmet to which the zero-gravity device is connected.
Best way is to kill the cushion so he does not see out and fly into the moon or ground.


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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2015, 04:58:17 PM »
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