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Title: B-24 Rocket Launcher
Post by: beau32 on May 24, 2012, 01:06:37 AM
Intresting set of pictures on E-bay.

http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/aircraft-pictures/rocket-launcher-b24-liberator-32786.html

Rocket launcher mounted on back of B-24, possibley to deter attacks from the back?
Title: Re: B-24 Rocket Launcher
Post by: Krusty on May 24, 2012, 01:22:56 AM
Not likely. Those are air to ground rockets (3.5" I think?) and the angle would be so high as to be ludicrous to fire at planes following you. More than likely it was a 1-off experimental test for low-flying PB models hunting for subs. If the depth charges didn't finish it off, a steep climb would allow firing the rockets.


Although, that'd be one darned steep pullout if so. I think more than anything it was some hairbrained scheme that never amounted to much.
Title: Re: B-24 Rocket Launcher
Post by: Guppy35 on May 24, 2012, 02:30:09 AM
Hate to do it Krusty, but Beau's guess was correct :)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/DGS%20Scenario%20bits/24Rocket.jpg)
Title: Re: B-24 Rocket Launcher
Post by: beau32 on May 24, 2012, 09:01:03 AM
Didnt think it was air to ground as the angle can be changed from what the pictures show. Intresting set up none the less....
Title: Re: B-24 Rocket Launcher
Post by: Krusty on May 24, 2012, 12:03:26 PM
As far as rocket systems go, that one's idiotic....


How were they expecting to get even close with A2G rockets against fast moving and manuevering fighters?


To quote a movie, "It bottles the mind!"
Title: Re: B-24 Rocket Launcher
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 24, 2012, 12:08:03 PM
As far as rocket systems go, that one's idiotic....


How were they expecting to get even close with A2G rockets against fast moving and manuevering fighters?


To quote a movie, "It bottles the mind!"

It doesn't have to hit the enemy fighter, it just has to make it break off it's attack.

ack-ack
Title: Re: B-24 Rocket Launcher
Post by: beau32 on May 24, 2012, 12:50:29 PM
It doesn't have to hit the enemy fighter, it just has to make it break off it's attack.

ack-ack

Agreed, just there to scare off the attack, probably never intended to actually try and hit a enemy fighter....
Title: Re: B-24 Rocket Launcher
Post by: bustr on May 24, 2012, 01:07:21 PM
British used Liberators for long distance UBoat patrols. Besides radar, bombs and depth charges some had 6 inch rocket racks mounted on the side of the fuslage under the side of the cockpit.
Title: Re: B-24 Rocket Launcher
Post by: Guppy35 on May 24, 2012, 01:31:32 PM
Krusty also note, that it never got past the testing stage.  It wasn't used operationally.  At the time there may have been enough legitimate concern to try just about anything.  I don't imagine in the overall scheme of things it was that difficult to take it to the test stage.
Title: Re: B-24 Rocket Launcher
Post by: Krusty on May 24, 2012, 03:07:40 PM
Good points all around, I suppose. I guess 60+ years of hindsight color my perspective more than the folks that were doing it at the time.
Title: Re: B-24 Rocket Launcher
Post by: morfiend on May 24, 2012, 05:53:42 PM
  Imagine diving in to shoot the tail off a B24 and it fires 2 or 3 bazzoka rockets at you!

       I'm pretty sure I'd break off! :O




    :salute
Title: Re: B-24 Rocket Launcher
Post by: Lusche on May 24, 2012, 06:15:34 PM
  Imagine diving in to shoot the tail off a B24 and it fires 2 or 3 bazzoka rockets at you!

Or how about that:  :devil

(http://www.luftarchiv.de/bordgerate/flames.jpg)

(http://www.luftarchiv.de/bordgerate/flames1.jpg)
Title: Re: B-24 Rocket Launcher
Post by: Peyton on May 24, 2012, 06:33:42 PM
Good points all around, I suppose. I guess 60+ years of hindsight color my perspective more than the folks that were doing it at the time.


+1 for admitting you were wrong.   :salute

Sometimes we forget that we are looking back in time.  So what seems like a terrible idea today for them to do back then, was actually them learning, advancing technologically, and most of all, trying to think of ways of not getting shot down and killed.
Title: Re: B-24 Rocket Launcher
Post by: Babalonian on May 24, 2012, 06:55:54 PM
Or how about that:  :devil

(http://www.luftarchiv.de/bordgerate/flames.jpg)

(http://www.luftarchiv.de/bordgerate/flames1.jpg)

I'd either get the heck outa the way or start filing the kill claim paperwork if I saw that, holy.  :O  :rofl
Title: Re: B-24 Rocket Launcher
Post by: SmokinLoon on June 06, 2012, 10:28:37 AM
I too was going to say that hindsight is 20/20.  Put yourself in a Bf109 starting your run on a B24 and then seeing the rockets launch... you would think twice about staying on course. 
Title: Re: B-24 Rocket Launcher
Post by: bozon on June 06, 2012, 10:42:44 AM
I too was going to say that hindsight is 20/20.  Put yourself in a Bf109 starting your run on a B24 and then seeing the rockets launch... you would think twice about staying on course. 
In hindsight, B24 should have carried crates of sea gulls to dump outside when being attacked. German planes are vulnerable to birds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf1bx37lh_M

Title: Re: B-24 Rocket Launcher
Post by: Mongoose on June 08, 2012, 11:57:45 PM
I think more than anything it was some hairbrained scheme that never amounted to much.

I remember reading some history of some of the hairbrained schemes that were tried out.  They had the philosophy to look at any idea no matter how crazy it sounded.  Many of the ideas were absolutely crazy, and never worked out.  But there were several that did turn out to be very successful.
Title: Re: B-24 Rocket Launcher
Post by: lyric1 on June 09, 2012, 02:41:45 AM
???

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Black%20B24%20Liberators/CD91F1EFB28A484CB25703B91A8F8832.jpg)
Title: Re: B-24 Rocket Launcher
Post by: MarineUS on June 14, 2012, 04:35:33 AM
???

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Black%20B24%20Liberators/CD91F1EFB28A484CB25703B91A8F8832.jpg)
:huh :huh :huh :huh :huh
Title: Re: B-24 Rocket Launcher
Post by: lyric1 on June 14, 2012, 06:03:24 AM
:huh :huh :huh :huh :huh

No idea just some pictures I found online.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Black%20B24%20Liberators/100-1.jpg)
Title: Re: B-24 Rocket Launcher
Post by: Rino on June 14, 2012, 07:34:50 AM
     Parked in front of a GE hangar, jet engine testbed?
Title: Re: B-24 Rocket Launcher
Post by: Old Sport on June 14, 2012, 10:04:10 AM
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ChrisBrame/cap865.jpg)

Too bad it was for a sci-fi movie -  :D
Title: Re: B-24 Rocket Launcher
Post by: TDeacon on June 14, 2012, 10:26:21 AM
     Parked in front of a GE hangar, jet engine testbed?

Note what appears to be an air intake at the top of the fuselage, showing just above the trailing edge of the left wing. 

MH
Title: Re: B-24 Rocket Launcher
Post by: MarineUS on June 14, 2012, 11:23:59 AM
Note what appears to be an air intake at the top of the fuselage, showing just above the trailing edge of the left wing. 

MH
Good catch  :aok
Title: Re: B-24 Rocket Launcher
Post by: beau32 on June 14, 2012, 11:47:14 AM
In 1946 a B-24M # 44-41986 was modified by having a General Electric I-16 jet engine fitted in the waist compartment, with a large air scoop built on top of the fuselage and the exhaust exiting at the former tail-gunner's position. This was undertaken by NACA Lewis Research Center for testing of the effects of icing on jet engines