hilbly, I gave on FF in disgust years ago. My first FF stick was junk, but I then got a Logitech Wingman force, which was a decent stick - and absolutely awesome when it came to FF. It died, had been discontinued, and by then the choices were extremely limited. I used MS Sidewinder FF sticks for a couple of years (which didn't work properly when it came to FF, but was better than anything else I could find), but when the 3rd one of those died, I gave up, and went to a full CH rig.
If there's a decent FF stick available now that isn't utter junk with a hokey gimmicky feature that's actually useless due to poor design, faulty implementation, and even poorer construction, I don't know what it is.
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