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« on: November 06, 2009, 02:47:33 PM »

I searched and, not suprisingly, found nothing, so update KI-61 please.   dancing banana       flyboy
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2009, 02:56:45 PM »

And the A6ms would be nice too
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2009, 03:00:02 PM »

I searched and, not suprisingly, found nothing, so update KI-61 please.   dancing banana       flyboy
Got anything specific on your mind? What about reference materials to back up your request?
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2009, 03:53:29 PM »

Interesting thing about many of the Japanese planes is that 1 physical model can give you 3-4 different aircraft by using armament options.

You could, in theory, get FOUR versions of the A6M5 just by offering different gun packages. The Ki-61 may be able to as well.
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2009, 03:55:05 PM »

A6M5 would need the armored windscreen removed.
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2009, 04:01:04 PM »

Ki-61 is amazing lol just uped it walla go Smiley  not as good as my 38 though Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2009, 05:11:46 PM »

There are a few discrepancies between models. One of the biggest I believe are the control consoles although it wouldn't be a very big deal just worth mentioning.

A6M1 and A6M2


A6M3 32 and 22


A6M5 and A6M5a console


A6M5b and A6M5c


A6M6c(I think...)


Of course there are other differences as well but I figured I would point this out. That aside I would still love to see the A6M and Ki-61 get updated.
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2009, 05:13:25 PM »

Concerning the KI-61, how can perfection be updated?   Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2009, 05:14:10 PM »

Do you know if that A6M6 ever got used? I heard it was a pretty uber plane,but not sure if it ever got out on the battlefield.
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2009, 06:01:01 PM »

Do you know if that A6M6 ever got used? I heard it was a pretty uber plane,but not sure if it ever got out on the battlefield.

Good question.  The A6M6 was similiar to the A6M5 Model 52c but with self-sealing fuel tanks and the A6M6c Type 0 Model 53c had Sakae 31a engine featuring water-methanol engine boost.  I've heard the The A6M6 Model 53c prototype was first flown sometime in 1944 but the project was eventually cancelled due to massive engine failures.  Not sure if the A6M6 ever got out of the prototype phase and into full production.


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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2009, 06:16:35 PM »

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From what I've dug up there were several hundred A6M6c's that did see combat, certainly more than the number of P-47Ms and Ta-152s, and MAYBE the F4U-1Cs combined.

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As for the cockpit dashes:

Keep in mind there's inaccuracies in several cockpits. IE: The airspeed indicator in the F4U-1/A/D/C was swapped with another instrument after players complained about not being able to see it in default head position (the A.S.I. was in its HISTORICAL position originally, they made the concession for the players who couldn't figure out you can look DOWN). Also, The F4U-1A didn't have the comb on the right side of the dash. It had the panel with the six arming switches for the Brownings and the gunsight brightness adjustment knob on the left, but not the one on the right. The right comb was for the bomb and rocket arming switches, and wasn't added until the 1D.

So I think HTC could get away with having one or two gauges out of place for the A6M5s....
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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2009, 07:35:37 PM »

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From what I've dug up there were several hundred A6M6c's that did see combat, certainly more than the number of P-47Ms and Ta-152s, and MAYBE the F4U-1Cs combined.

Air Flyer,

As for the cockpit dashes:

Keep in mind there's inaccuracies in several cockpits. IE: The airspeed indicator in the F4U-1/A/D/C was swapped with another instrument after players complained about not being able to see it in default head position (the A.S.I. was in its HISTORICAL position originally, they made the concession for the players who couldn't figure out you can look DOWN). Also, The F4U-1A didn't have the comb on the right side of the dash. It had the panel with the six arming switches for the Brownings and the gunsight brightness adjustment knob on the left, but not the one on the right. The right comb was for the bomb and rocket arming switches, and wasn't added until the 1D.

So I think HTC could get away with having one or two gauges out of place for the A6M5s....

thanks.  the book I have on the Zero is in Japanese with some awful Engrish translations that make some of the reading very confusing.


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« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2009, 07:55:47 PM »

I actually read somewhere that Zero pilots could switch some gauges by personal preference, and historical pictures seem to back this from what I've seen. Or perhaps depending on the manufacturer they were just different I'm not quite sure.

As far as production, I'm not really sure myself. Although I've seen rough estimates on total Zeroes produced during certain times, it isn't specific on the model. Here's what I've got anyways....

                               Mitsubishi     Nakajima     Total
Mar 1939-Mar 1942     722             115            837
Apr 1942-Mar 1943     729             960            1,689
Apr 1943-Mar 1944     1,164          2,268          3,432
Apr 1944-Mar 1945     1,145          2,342          3,487
Apr 1945-Aug 1945     119            885             1,004
Total                        3,879         6,570           10,449

Anyways, can't help but feel like were hijacking this thread so much to my displeasure I'll stop here.
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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2009, 08:05:03 PM »

Concerning the KI-61, how can perfection be updated?   Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2009, 10:31:57 AM »

Got anything specific on your mind? What about reference materials to back up your request?



Everyone else is providing it for me  neener
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