Can we do something about suicide HQ bombers?

[Lusche]

Taking out dar for an entire side is bad for game play. Sure, sure, you should intercept the bombers, whatever: it's still bad for game play.

On many maps, the HQ is easily reachable by flying NOE, which makes any defense about impossible as a Lancaster will reach it's target in less than 3 minutes after HQ alert has been triggered.


This problem is a problem of balance. A single player, going NOE with very little risk, can inflict the most disruptive damage to a whole country.
In my book, efforts on both sides and the results should match.

And now I see we are on the 'no HQ' map again. I log on, dar is off and will be for about another ~100 minutes, thanks to a front line city that's also almost indefensible to NOE raids.

Raise the HQ damage requirement significantly, or cut the connection to the city. I'd prefer the former one.

[100Coogn]

Maybe they could make it that if a pilot bails shortly after dropping his bombs, then the damage caused by his/her drop would be reset.
This is assuming that his/her bomber is still flyable and there's at least one con near his bomber, when he bails.

Coogan

[Lusche]

Maybe they could make it that if a pilot bails shortly after dropping his bombs, then the damage caused by his/her drop would be reset.

Easy to get around.

[icepac]

Remove the vehicle spawns into hq.

[save]

this is true.  get rid of hq taking out dar.  on some maps I wont even log due to hq being so close to the front that it is useless to resupply it, or defend it.



semp

^^
this made log off two nights in a row

[Someguy63]

This truly does suck, right now it happens like every other hour in FesterMA and there's no way to find a fight without boring yourself to death.

[WWhiskey]

Remove the vehicle spawns into hq.

whats this supposed to fix?
There is only one map in rotation with VHH spawns into HQ as it is now, I'd say add VHH spawns into HQ's on every map,, maybe even add enemy and friendly spawns into every HQ

[Rob52240]

whats this supposed to fix?
There is only one map in rotation with VHH spawns into HQ as it is now, I'd say add VHH spawns into HQ's on every map,, maybe even add enemy and friendly spawns into every HQ

Now that would make for a big fight with all types of war implements in one spot on the map!
+1

[Randy1]

I am guessing the AH staff doesn't play the game enough these days to get a feel for the trouble these very few people are causing. 

These few have a found a way to irritate a large number of people and it is getting old.

[bustr]

Last night on the fester map my squad discovered the HQ greifer was one guy in B29's at 25k who simply flew a big circle. We would resupply and get the HQ up. That is a lot of wasted game play time. Like clockwork he would cycle back and drop it right after we wasted all of the time. One of my squaddies finally met him with a 163 and put an end to it. But, many of the greifers NOE in and give up their bombers to get that HQ down.

This could be solved until after AH3 is released. Make the total weight of bombs needed to down the country wide radar control building at the HQ equal to 4 B29 full bomb loads.

[icepac]

The problem is people not defending country assets.

You can't fly the same stale fighter sweep profile for every type of mission.

Change it up a bit and enjoy the game a lot more.

[TheRapier]

Nice to see the problem is being seen more broadly:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,366608.0.html

To make the gameplay and time of 1/3 of the players suck to make one person happy is the definition of gaming idiocy.

[bozon]

The problem is people not defending country assets.

You can't fly the same stale fighter sweep profile for every type of mission.

Change it up a bit and enjoy the game a lot more.

I tried to defend HQ/strats last Euro night. Bombers were reported ib and I was already up in a fresh Mossie VI and a few miles directly in front of them. They climbed to over 30k together with 2 P51D and 1 P38 escorts. All I could do is fly under them and climb at 1000 fpm around 26k, trying to get into gun range or hope that at least the escorts would come down to fight me (the report by Trogdor "two P51Ds escorted by a pair of B17s" was hilarious... After a chase of several sectors the bombers and escorts got swarmed by 163s and 262s - and I was still not high enough to join the fight. Finally the 38 lost alt and I was able to catch it - all vibrating and about to fall apart from the speed. The last P-51D figured he stood the best chance against a mossie rather than the 163s and came down to me, which was true but did not matter.

So, 30 minutes sortie, mostly spent in auto-angle climb just to feed on the scraps falling down from the melee above me. I did not even get into gun range from the bombers so they have the chance to PW me. This is why I do not defend strats or HQ from high alt buffs.
Yes, yes, Mossie VI is definitely not the plane for this job, but taking a P47M/N or a Ta152 and circling HQ waiting for someone to come is far far worse.

[Lusche]

but taking a P47M/N or a Ta152 and circling HQ waiting for someone to come is far far worse.

And on many maps, you basically have to do exactly that - patrol over HQ for hours, 'just in case'. Because it's either possible to goe NOE to HQ without triggering alert even once, or, as on FesterMa, the distance to the area with 'regular' combat & darbar activity is so short that the early warning time is much too short to get up an interceptor.

All this is also much worse during off hours... when you have only 10 or even less players on, you can also forget resupping the HQ at downtimes over 100 minutes and 4 mins resupply effect per 10 minute sortie.

[Delirium]

And on many maps, you basically have to do exactly that - patrol over HQ for hours, 'just in case'.

Who has time for that? I don't know about the rest of you, but with all my other responsibilities, I schedule my AH time whenever I can. If that AH time consists of having to circle a building at 35k waiting for something that may not happen, I'd rather not log in at all and do some other activity with my free time instead.

Like I told Icepac last night, it is boring and not great gameplay.