possible 262 flight model bug - ditch from 20k alt no vert stab

[Drane]

This film shows me ditching from 20k alt in a 262 with no vertical stabilizer. There are a few times where the 262 appears to decelerate while yawed left or right and going down. Film attached.

[FLS]

Nice ditch. The 262 slowed down because it was going sideways causing greater drag and the air was getting thicker.


Sometimes you just get lucky. 

[Drane]

Nice ditch. The 262 slowed down because it was going sideways causing greater drag and the air was getting thicker.

Sometimes you just get lucky. 

Both engines were running full throttle until just before touchdown. Then I pulled throttles back to idle. Engines only had oil leaks and broke when impacting the ground.

[Drane]

Obviously you don't know much about what happens to an airplane when it goes down out of control.

One thing is for sure, a falling airplane doesn't act like there's a giant parachute slowing it down.

They tend to overspeed and shed parts.

So if you don't really know the answer, why butt in with a "he doesn't know what he's talking about" kind of response that says to other people..."move along nothing to see here"?

[FLS]

You weren't just falling you were also flying. When you fall or fly sideways there is a lot of drag. When you fell with the smoke going up you were flat plate to the wind. Next time you're driving 170 mph consider how slow that is. 

HTC can look at the film and see if there's a bug. My opinion won't change Hitech's opinion. I think you got lucky, you may disagree.

Use the F5 view from the front or rear to see the attitude and note the smoke direction showing the relative wind.

[Drane]

Sigh.......

[FLS]

Don't forget to consider the low thrust of those engines when you've lost forward speed.

[Drane]

I know you're trying to help...but...you're not. Please stop.

[FLS]

It's also useful to consider that the terminal velocity of an aerodynamic bullet is around 200 mph.

If you aren't thirsty don't drink. 

[MrKrabs]

Did you also know Zack is awesome? 

[USCH]

Did you also know Zack is awesome? 

i have known for years 

[Drane]

It's also useful to consider that the terminal velocity of an aerodynamic bullet is around 200 mph.

If you aren't thirsty don't drink. 

Beginning to feel as if you are just one of those people who has to have the last word in a conversation.

Consider your assumptions of what I'm considering.

[Wiley]

Regardless of whether it's right or not, I'd just like to mention I've had that kind of ditch twice in a 262 with no vstab.  Just floats down like a leaf.  I've also had horrible things happen to my 262 when it lost the vstab.  Not sure what the conditions are that allow it to work.  Possibly if it starts from a relatively level orientation.  Once was definitely from ~20k, the second time was more like 10k I believe.

Wiley.

[FLS]

Consider your assumptions of what I'm considering.

Which assumption are you assuming?

You said you ditched a 262 with no vert stab.  What's the bug?

[Randy1]

My squad mate did the same thing in a P-51 last week after losing the tail.   Flew sideways for a very, very long time.  He thought he had a ditch until he hit a tree at the very end.