Author Topic: Tracking A Shot  (Read 924 times)

Offline Hobo

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« on: June 25, 2001, 07:34:00 AM »
Hello all.  After many, many months of ignoring on-line WW2 fkight sims the bug started biting me again last month.  I imediately went back to my old stand-by WB's.  It took about a week before I found it to be the same-old-thing.  Nothing new, nothing exciting, in nearly a year.  

I remembered the good strides that were being made over here on AH last summer and thought I'd check things out again.  Now here is my dilema.

While I'm finding I really love the fm's these days, I'm having a LOT of trouble tracking targets.  It seems that I can't hold a steady track no matter how hard I try.  It's almost like the stick spiking, nose bobbing stuff we used to see way back in WB's 1.XX days (for you old timers).  This leads me to believe it is joystick related, yet it's not quite a matter of spiking.  It's a tiny bit different.  I just can't quite put my finger on what it is.

I use a MS FF2 and have ZERO spiking problems.  Just to confirm it wasn't the stick I switched to another Logitech stick and have the same problem.  I suspect it may have to do with my stick scaling, dampers, etc.  I messed around with them a bit but no real improvement so I set them all back to default.  Over the years in WB's I found I was most accurate (gunnery-wise) with all set to defaults on scaling (100%) and dampers at zero.

Does anyone have any suggestions for me?  


Thanks,


Hobo

Offline AKSWulfe

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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2001, 07:44:00 AM »
You know those sliders that adjust how much movement your stick creates? 10,20, 30 etc?

I found that if you start off around ~5 (for 10) and move up to about 25 when you get to 30, then begin to drastically move it up so you eventually get the bar on 90 (or is it 100?) moved all the way to the top.

The nose bounce present in AH (and that was present in WB) is because the controls have "insta-pull" modelled rather than, what I guess would be, human interaction.

Sorry can't help you out anymore than that, but if you modify the above sliders, you should be able to get a slightly more "smooth" output from your joystick.
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Offline ah1g

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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2001, 09:46:00 AM »
Hobo !

Glad to see ya here bud.  I remember 1 or 2 hops with ya and DocDoom in Goldlandia 190's, was always a blast.  Look forward to seeing ya in the air here.

AH-1G

 

Offline AKHog

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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2001, 10:11:00 AM »
What SW descirbed is called exponential in the radio control world. It's used to take care of the exact problems your talking about. basicaly around center you stick has slightly less input as to what your control surfaces do but you maintain full deflection at 100% input. but be carefull, too much exponential will make the problem even worse. you'll find you dont have enough control around the center of you stick and end up over correcting for snap shots and such.

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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2001, 11:10:00 AM »
Try something like this:  

 

 

Offline Gargoyle

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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2001, 01:23:00 PM »
Having just made the WB to AH transition myself a couple of months ago I'll pass along my observations...

The AH joystick settings are WAY more sensitive than WB.  At default, the nose will bounce and swing ridiculously all over the sky.  There is also a slight input delay which excacerbates this by getting you into constantly over-correcting and over-over-correcting.

My setup is like funkedup's for pitch, 100% across the board for roll, and about half of what funkedup has for rudder (I have a twisty stick so I really have to damp it down).

It took me quite a while to get used to the gunnery differences as well, after 3 months I am only just now starting to feel any sort of consistency with gunnery.

Offline minus

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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2001, 01:38:00 PM »
holy cow ! funked if i set my FX stick like this  is it hsut same like flying straith

do no but i realy need input for my 190 and still never warp damit , next  thing iwill screw my modem , hope i begin warp a litle   ;)