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Offline Apache

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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2000, 12:39:00 PM »
Amen, tower only.

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Offline Wardog

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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2000, 01:17:00 PM »
Mute point here guys.

I talked to HT back in beta and he said they will not change the dots on dar for cons. Coming outa WBs i was not interested in an Air Warrior Radar system.

Dots should be allowed in Tower only and on any plane that had Radar onboard. This is where the p61, me410 , and a few other planes would come in handy. Ive seen a Night Fighter version of the FW190 with radar on it. These planes would add greatly to AH.


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« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2000, 01:21:00 PM »
Soon as dot dar came out in beta I made a topic against it... soo... amen.

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« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2000, 01:43:00 PM »
on tower  radar bar , and how about reduced icon range and replace type icon be red dot
/anyway if not show up at 9 k green with nick is it enemy  an enemy will have
surprise adv  like in real life,, when below  5 k red dot no plane type so u can catch up visual danger, distance show up  below  1 k or 800 so
long range hogs kill will never sure where they are  

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« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2000, 01:44:00 PM »
This is interesting!

Why not MIX several of the ideas/complains here and come up with a solution?

So far we have:
1) Real life WW2 planes were vectored into enemy by ground control.
2) Dot Radar allowed only in tower
3) You can kill radar, albeit something as vital as fuel tanks and ammo dumps when attacking a field.
4) Radar shows bars on sectors way on the other side of the map.
5) Radar equipped planes (hopefully soon to be introduced) should be the only ones to have dot radar on their clipboard.

So how can we get this taken care of?

In my opinion, AH would be better off by:

-Removing dot radar from clipboard (except in radar equipped planes) and allowing it only in towers. Note: If radar is destroyed in field, you lose dot dar in that sector, just as it is now.

(this would create LOTS of player cooperation and tower-stationed players to vector other planes)

-Bar radar should only show red bars when 1-2 sectors away from radar field.

-make radar TOWERS in the fields (perhaps, between VH and airfield, or one tower in each corner of the airfield?), not that little satellite tv dish thats entrenched in the airfields. Nuke that tower (immune to strafing by cannon and MG preferably.. it would be like trying to strafe a telephone post) and the field loses its dot dar in tower and red bar dar in the sectors it covers)

Historically, the LW was aware of the English radar BEFORE the Battle of Britain and they did tried with considerable effort to kill the british radar towers that were on plain sight by the coast. Problem was, the Stukas and Dorniers couldn't hit such small targets, and if they ever did, the tower was back up the next morning. Heavy losses made such venture impossible (and coincidentally, it was after those attack that the Stuka was taken out of the front line!)

-make nights longer (1 hour of night, 4 hours of daylight?) and add FLARES to the Buff's inventory. That way a lead buff could mark the spot and the other buffs carpet bomb at night. Night fighters would then enter into the arena with a niche of their own. It would also be cooled if AH had player controlled spotlights to vector fighters hehehe.. I can only dream!  

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« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2000, 01:54:00 PM »
 
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I'll give up CHog when you fly the CHog for one tour and maintain a 5.5 K/D Ratio

Ew rip. That's akin to say "I will give up the c hog when you eat and drink your on waste products".

Won't happen. I won't even come close to a chog, if I do not intend to kill it.

 



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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2000, 01:58:00 PM »
 
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Ew rip. That's akin to say "I will give up the c hog when you eat and drink your on waste products".

Won't happen. I won't even come close to a chog, if I do not intend to kill it.

 



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Offline Fishu

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« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2000, 02:05:00 PM »
Get rid of sector radar and I am happy.

Only leave field radars if those are still up on the field.

btw. they could include some sort of surveillance on vehicle fields also, i don't think they are just camping there, there should be more attention than on air fields.

Theres just rare times when sector counter is destroyed, just because there isn't enough players to be organized so often that it would be for good use. (mostly that HQ goes down only when enemy is close enough to do it from nearby field, not when theres couple fields blocking it)

Warbirds had good radar, which pointed direction for most enemies/friendlies!

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« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2000, 03:20:00 PM »
hey rip, if I maintain a 5.5 k/d in a chog will ya give it up?  

look up stats for skyhawk in the 1c, doh!

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« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2000, 05:13:00 PM »
I don't care one way or another!  I just want to say this to Ripsnort!

UP YOURS!!!!!!


 


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« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2000, 05:31:00 PM »
Fly under 500ft and you won't have a dot on dar, only a bar  

I think the dots help expidite the battle a bit when you are close to an friendly base, otherwise we'd have to fly around forever looking for help.  Since you'll never convince anyone in the tower to relay information to the fighters, this is the best I think we can do.  They only work in a sector with a friendly field anyway.

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« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2000, 05:46:00 PM »
untill we have dedicated tower based players to vector us fighter to the nme, we need dot dar. It only simulates what a ground based controller would tell you. And BTW, wouldn't radar give you altitude as well?

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« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2000, 08:00:00 PM »
rip, it takes as much skill as opening a can of spam  .

I'll see you below 20k  



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« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2000, 08:06:00 PM »
AMEN unless you are in the tower.

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« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2000, 07:56:00 AM »
 I would say no inflight radar at all cept when in the tower. Exceptions would be planes equipped with radar that may be added in the future, and then it should be limited compared to what we have now.

 This was implimanted in DOA and the gameplay improved drasticly.