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« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2003, 01:16:21 PM »
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Accept the ones you leave on the side of the road?




(nudge nudge wink wink)


LOL!:rofl

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« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2003, 01:32:16 PM »
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Which brings to mind...if an animal rights activist fell in the forest, would anyone hear it?

Rip, the question should be:
 If an animal rights activist fell in the woods:
a) would a bear **** on it?
b) would anyone care?
c) both a & b
d) none of the above

The correct answer is: c
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« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2003, 01:57:06 PM »
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Accept the ones you leave on the side of the road?




(nudge nudge wink wink)


Furious, I resemble that remark!

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« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2003, 02:25:46 PM »
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What kind of traps are they using? Do the traps kill the beavers instantly, or do they suffer?

Seems to me there's nothing wrong with trying to make sure the beavers are killed quickly and without suffering, if indeed you must kill them.

I suppose I'll be slapped with the PETA label now, but I don't care. I don't like to see any animals suffer.


Have you ever been to a slaughter house, banana?  It's a revealing experience.  I used to go with my grandfather to get animal blood for a fishbait ingredient.

When cattle are being slaughtered (at least in my experience,) they are milling around in a pen adjacent to the door which takes them to the killing chamber.  They are uneasy (smell of blood I suppose,) but give no indication of what lies beyond the door.
Indeed, one can be docilely driven through the door to the killing chamber.

Pigs OTOH are 100% aware of what's going on.  They are screaming, frantically running around the pen searching for a way out.  And no pig docilely enters the door.  They know ... smart critters pigs. :)

Beavers are trapped by holding them under water until they drown.  Typically, a leg-hold trap is used.

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« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2003, 04:33:14 PM »
"We think it sends a very, very bad message that when animals cause a problem you kill them,"

:rofl

"Almost everything about beavers is good except when they flood your yard"

OK I have to disagree here, a yard full of beaver has GOT to be good :D

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« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2003, 04:43:00 PM »
Eat a beaver and save a tree. :aok

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« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2003, 05:15:11 PM »
PETA has no idea of what kind of people and culture they are dealing with.  Most Alaskans just don't give a darn what groups like PETA might think, espescially when you get out of Anchorage.
I lived in Fairbanks (where this GS Troop resides).  In the U. of Alaska - Fairbanks bookstore, you can buy a hatchet.  

In one clas at UAF I was the oddball of the group, because I didn't have my own dogsled team.  That's right, in a class of mostly women, most of the side conversations revolved around dog team care, racing, adventures, etc.

Telling Alaskans that they can't teach kids how to trap beavers is like telling us that we shouldn't play computer war games.

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« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2003, 04:25:14 AM »
PETA and other similar groups will never "get it".  Fact is, animals aren't PEOPLE!  Nor do animals deserve the same RIGHTS as PEOPLE.  

Now, IMHO... there are MANY people who do not DESERVE the same rights as animals, but thats besides the point.

Anyway... In my younger years I did a LOT of trapping.  It's like an art.  Being successful as a "trapper" genuinely requires more knowledge and skill than hunting does.   A good trapper does what he can to minimize the suffering of the animal, which includes running your trapline as often a possible and killing the animal as humanely as possible, but this is very hard to do. I was just getting good when I realized it just "wasn't right".  I got to where I couldn't sleep thinking there might be a fox sitting in one of my traps for 8hrs in the freezing cold, or a Beaver slowly drowning as the harder he fought the line the deeper he went.

I'm not against trapping, but I don't agree with it.  There are better ways to enjoy outdoor sports.
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