Author Topic: In the end.. it all boils down to this.. (Read 2227 times)

Kieran · « **Reply #45 on:** December 05, 2001, 08:18:00 PM »

Oh, and as far as the strategy is concerned, I stand on that. It is what I saw from my perspective- and I was in the final four in round two. I chased numero uno around for some time before I was finally picked off by someone less concerned about him than me- though I thought that funny, as I am hardly a threat. Had numero uno turned on me I would no doubt have lost. From what I saw it was run, hit targets of opportunity in your path, never slow down. Then in the final few you have to fight, but there you are with most of your ammo and WEP.

Wish I had filmed mine so you could see my perspective.

Zigrat · « **Reply #46 on:** December 05, 2001, 09:19:00 PM »

kieren my point is this. every time i have gotten killed in wild wednesday it is because i have been outflown by a superior pilot. if you look at his film, you will see him outflying me. i enjoy losing in such a situation, you learn something from it.

i dont think its arrogant. in fact i am typing this while i am waiting for the next round to start because chango kicked my ass. why? because he outflew me.

my point is that every time i have died in this event so far it is because i was outflown... thats not the case in the ma, where a bunch of dweebs gangbang you or vulch you or you die in acks or whatever.

i get very irritated flying in the main arena because i am a sore loser when i am beat by someone who didnt *earn the kill*. i dont feel that way about WW because of the *lack of respawning* and thats what makes it such a great event..

Zigrat · « **Reply #47 on:** December 05, 2001, 09:22:00 PM »

i also agee with you lazs on squad type duels. i think 1 life squad duels mabye 6 on 6 say blue knights vs assasins would be great.. fly will all of one side is dead, then everyone respawns again.

also the other great thing about ww is that everyone starts at the same time, so if a guy has e over you, its becaus eyou chose to waste yours doing something, not because he is a dweeb with too much time on his hands to grab alt.

anyways i am just a big fan of the event and i encourage you to try it out if you enjoy furballs. not being abole to click fly the second after you die really adds something to the experience.

Seeker · « **Reply #48 on:** December 05, 2001, 09:50:00 PM »

WW rools.

Kierens fears do have some relevance, depending on plane type. With the Hurri and the LA, there is the tendancy to try and preserve fuel and ammo as much as pos, but even then in the end it boils down to that last vital one on one.

For other planes, with larger loads, people get stuck in a bit earlier.

One thing to bear in mind is that there's a new map roumoured to be in development for the event, it'll be interesting to see what effect that has.

Perhaps the only "tweak" WW might need is to pick planes every round instead of every week, but that's minor.

Kieran · « **Reply #49 on:** December 06, 2001, 06:16:00 AM »

Before I am labled a "WW" hater, let me dispel that thought altogether. I am not, and had a great time. I just happen to also like the MA, and take that for what it is.

I don't hate the lone bombers that come in at high alt to kill bases. Game is designed to allow it.

I don't hate people that spawn after I kill them, game allows that too.

I don't hate squads, even though I am not in one.

I don't hate pilots that fly Nikki's, Spits, La-7's, or whatever plane that excites you.

I don't consider myself anything more than the average guy that pops in for a few minutes of release a night. I just can't see why it always has to be a "my type of play is better than yours" all the time (though I have to admit at least Lazs makes me chuckle how he says it).

Kieran · « **Reply #50 on:** December 06, 2001, 06:24:00 AM »

And finally, Zig, you vultched me from a superior height after I had fought a good duel with another pilot. How must I rate you on that? Isn't this precisely what you said you hate?

That is my point- I took it as part of the game- you seem to take it as a slap in the face because the guy that got you didn't earn it. At least, that is the way I read you.

You either have fun or you don't, I guess. I have fun no matter what, and I am not about to spend one second trying to evaluate whether my last death was earned by my opponent. He got me (or she, sorry Flossy) and that's all that matters.

Seeker · « **Reply #51 on:** December 06, 2001, 06:49:00 AM »

Kieran, no one takes you for one of those radical "play my way types".

But..I will defend WW to my virtual death!

it's my favourite non-scenario activity!

As for Zig vulching you, WW isn't a 1 on 1 set up, it's not a duelling ladder. It's a pig pile, pure and simple.

Actually, I expect and hope that a new map will bunch the furball up more closely, amplyfiying (how the *hell* is that spilt?) the pigpile even more.

It's the only area of AH where even the luftwobbles seem happy

Kieran · « **Reply #52 on:** December 06, 2001, 07:04:00 AM »

Hehe, this is getting silly, and I am painting myself in a corner, but here goes one more time- if a person says that "only the people who earned the kill killed me, therefore my type of play is better, yet ironically killed another person in a way that was totally unearned, what does that say about our hero? It tells me the whole thing is a matter of perception.

Seeker · « **Reply #53 on:** December 06, 2001, 07:45:00 AM »

<hands Keiran masking tape>

Every time I've ever managed to pump lead into Zig, I've earnt it; which makes me better than him. The more he squeakes, the better I obviously am. On the other hand, every time Zig's popped me, he's obviously hacked the FE, had at least 10K alt, five friends and bribed my ISP.

Sounds normal flight sim stuff to me

Having said that, if some one consistantly finished high in these type of events, I think that then it does offer some kind of judgement value. After all, Leviathan and Fester win when ever they show, Moose and Zig are consistanlty in the last four up, over time (say a month); I think that gives as fair a picture as any other thing you can think of (rank? K/D?)

Kieran · « **Reply #54 on:** December 06, 2001, 07:51:00 AM »

<Sigh> I give. It's about fun, not about whether someone who killed you "earned it" or not.

Seeker · « **Reply #55 on:** December 06, 2001, 07:57:00 AM »

Lighten up, Fancis

Kieran · « **Reply #56 on:** December 06, 2001, 08:12:00 AM »

Hey, I am the "Bud Lite" of pilots.

lazs1 · « **Reply #57 on:** December 06, 2001, 08:37:00 AM »

I dunno... sounds like there is some squaddie cooperation in there.. least till the end. Not really a "free for all" eh? Maybe it would be better if handle icons were turned off or...maybe all icons turned off?
lazs

Rotorian · « **Reply #58 on:** December 06, 2001, 10:01:00 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs1:
Maybe it would be better if handle icons were turned off or...maybe all icons turned off?
lazs

Oooh, this might be a good idea.

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #59 on:** December 06, 2001, 02:50:00 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs1:
I dunno... sounds like there is some squaddie cooperation in there.. least till the end. Not really a "free for all" eh? Maybe it would be better if handle icons were turned off or...maybe all icons turned off?
lazs

Interesting idea. I think it would cut down on the squad cooperation, but I fear that it would only exacerbate the willingness of people to grab to as high as possible in far off locations. It would be a cherry picker's wet dream.

That said, I don't really mind if squads cooperate loosely. The event breeds a sort of OPEC mindset anyway... they'll cooperate until it becomes absolutely irresistable to blow away that squadmate who's 1k off their 12oc, busily engaged with someone else.

-- Todd/Leviathn