Author Topic: sweet Video on CNN Killing Americans (Read 5724 times)

gofaster · « **Reply #135 on:** November 19, 2003, 02:44:13 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
The US forces did not wear UN uniforms, they did not answer to UN leadership and they were not under UN control. The UN forces in Somalia were not even informed on the US operations (also depicted in the movie as well). The US forces were not UN forces in Somalia.

We were there at the request of the UN, and were acting as part of the UN effort. The chain of command was different, but the effort was the same. The only difference was that we had a bit more leeway to operate and achieve the goal of capturing warlords rather than sitting around waiting for relief camps to get hit. It also meant we were on our own when things went wrong.

The failure to incorporate the US forces into the UN leadership structure made the UN extraction from Somalia more difficult - for the UN.

It was the same mission, under different leaderships. The US was there to support the UN efforts.

gofaster · « **Reply #136 on:** November 19, 2003, 02:57:47 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Yes exactly. The UN could not have done what the US forces did. The UN is forbidden to. The UN is neutral, the US is not.

And you saw how effective the UN relief effort was before, during, and after the US involvement. "Neutral" = "target" when you're wearing the blue helmet in a hostile environment.

If the US pulled out of Iraq and left it up to the UN to administer, Iraq would sucumb to civil war in a matter of weeks, if not days.

straffo · « **Reply #137 on:** November 19, 2003, 03:02:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Jack55
They wanted free hand to capture and prosecute the revolutionaries hiding inside Serbia that assassinated the Arch-Duke. No nation would give up their self respect and independance in such a manner. They knew it would come to war and were afraid Russia would come to aid Serbia because of their relegious and culteral similarities. So they waited and lobbied Germany for support if Russia interviened. This resulted in rising tensions and escolating mobilizations among the opposing power blocks. I don't think Serbia was successfully conquered during WW1. It became unimportant in light of the mass carnage.

Certainly but in my opinion Nicolas II giving a too strong support to the Serbs made this happen.

mrblack · « **Reply #138 on:** November 19, 2003, 03:06:02 PM »

I think America will be Judged on what she does in the future not on what she did in the past.

mrblack · « **Reply #139 on:** November 19, 2003, 03:14:10 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Nonsensical. You cannot judge on things that hasn't happened yet.

Not saying it makes sense !
Just saying thats the way it seems sometimes.

crabofix · « **Reply #140 on:** November 19, 2003, 03:46:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Elfie
Crabofix, you need to understand that the majority of Americans held an isolationist view. They didnt care that Europe was in yet another war. With that in mind, the government can't just jump into the war without causing all kinds of domestic problems. Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor brought America together as nothing else could have.

Germany didn't declare war on us until after we declared war on Japan.

Thanx Elfie for clearing out that it was not to "libarate" anyone, that made US to enter the war.

Martlet · « **Reply #141 on:** November 19, 2003, 04:39:46 PM »

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Originally posted by crabofix
Thanx Elfie for clearing out that it was not to "libarate" anyone, that made US to enter the war.

Nah, that was why we were supplying the UK, instead.

ramzey · « **Reply #142 on:** November 19, 2003, 05:50:07 PM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
Let's recount:

1. Iraq under a brutal dictator invades and brutalizes their neighbor, our friend.
2. We tell them to leave Kuwait, they refuse. We give them ultimatum, they still refuse.
3. We liberate Kuwait and Iraq surrenders unconditionally.
4. Conditions for continuance of Iraqi government are set and agreed upon by Iraq.
5. Saddam violates every condition he agreed to.
6. US gets fed up and ousts a brutal dictator.
7. US creates democracy in the middle east
8. Stay tuned, one of many more to come.

1. And was punished over 10 years ago. How about last 10 years?
2. "Somone" refuse payments for irak-iran war, who was supporting this war? ;-)
3. How to glue this to 2003 war?
4. Sure , and thats why every year som planes bomb som factories in iraq , without UN permissions. Clinton was smart enough to keep tham scared, and smart enough to not spend bilions of $ for war.

5. And noone of inspectors cannot proof they violate condition. How many conditions was violated by US?
6. lol, and thats why people still fighting against ocupation forces in iraq?
7, Who the hell ask you for that? When russians like to provide comunism, they where bad guys. How you call US troops now?
Democracy by force? Created by tanks and bombs, democracy whichone come on bayonets foregin army?? Is that not against clue of democracy?

8. i will wait

i live long enoug in comunistic country to see, same ideologi is now on west side of wall. Give everyone freedom for any price.
Propaganda and lies in tv. Oh not, they tell true, but not whole

Martlet · « **Reply #143 on:** November 19, 2003, 05:54:02 PM »

Ramzey, you really can't be that stupid. I truly believe this.

Raubvogel · « **Reply #144 on:** November 19, 2003, 08:31:01 PM »

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Originally posted by davidpt40
Thanks. Hows your marriage doing?

My marriage is fine. But even if it weren't, I could always re-marry. Some things you can change, but retard is forever. You want to see dead in combat? Step up to the plate. Until then you're just a little pathetic retard.