Author Topic: sweet Video on CNN Killing Americans (Read 5717 times)

MC_Honky · « **Reply #30 on:** November 18, 2003, 07:02:34 PM »

Lock this thread. After seeing our poor troops being ambushed- nobody would lock this thread. Watch the video first then lock this thread.

capt. apathy · « **Reply #31 on:** November 18, 2003, 07:15:12 PM »

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How come the U.S. Army cant beat some religious fanatics that are using home-made bombs, RPGs and Ak47s/74s?

This is serious question.

ok, I'll try and give a serious answer.

since they (the fanatics) aren't 'regular army', so they have no baracks, bases, supply lines, suport structure, or government with an adress. at least not in the normal sense of the word. so when they aren't shooting at you and the guns are under their robes they are fairly hard to distinguish from the arab who is on your side (if their are any).

so do to the above they get to pick the time and place of the confrontation, and they are going to pick times and places that give them the advantage. if they set up a situation and it all of a sudden doesn't look good for them, then they just skip-it and wait for another day.

meanwhile our guys have to go around presenting themselves as a tartget and rarely get to engage until they've drawn fire.

MC_Honky · « **Reply #32 on:** November 18, 2003, 07:15:16 PM »

Ok ..I'm calm now. I blame CNN for my outburst. They say, "We have some disturbing video- this is a warning etc.." WTF- those terds just do that stuff for ratings. Inflamitory stuff then..now a word from our sponsers. They are exploiting our poor boys overthere.

Ok ..I'm calm now.

miko2d · « **Reply #33 on:** November 18, 2003, 07:19:57 PM »

davidpt40: How come the U.S. Army cant beat some religious fanatics that are using home-made bombs, RPGs and Ak47s/74s?
This is serious question.

Not just the US army. The nationalist uprising has never been defeated in human history. The whole population can be exterminated but short of that, nobody has a better record.

mrblack: I am sure at some point the Army will change it's tactics to fight them at there own game.

What, sending special teams to roam in the enemy territory? It would not work any better that it did with russians.
The best it did for russians was to ease pressure on the main centers. It did not gained them control of the enemy territory.

Intercepting enemy's convoys and battle groups is a reactive tactic by definition. You can make it hard for them to defeat you but you would never defeat them. For that you have to go where they are and kill them there.

Which is impossible to do because outside of combat, how the heck would you tell an enemy combatant from a peacefull villager? Russians could waste whole villages but americans would not be able to do that for.

Historically, the only way to deal with afghans was to buy them out. Even then you had to be carefull, just look at the massacre they geve british. So prepare to foot the bill and do not expect much quiet anyway.

miko

ravells · « **Reply #34 on:** November 18, 2003, 07:20:20 PM »

Don't get these sort of responses when other people are dying.

Ravs

capt. apathy · « **Reply #35 on:** November 18, 2003, 07:28:56 PM »

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Ok ..I'm calm now. I blame CNN for my outburst. They say, "We have some disturbing video- this is a warning etc.." WTF- those terds just do that stuff for ratings. Inflamitory stuff then..now a word from our sponsers. They are exploiting our poor boys overthere.

Ok ..I'm calm now.

I agree that their motives are purely cash and the language filter would inhibit me saying exactly what I think of them.

but I disagree with those saying this thread should be locked or the video no shown.

if we can send our sons and daughters out to live through it then we ought to be able to stomach seeing it on video.

if it outrages you to see them maybe you should think about writing a few letters and putting your voice in on the side of bringing them home.

Pongo · « **Reply #36 on:** November 18, 2003, 07:36:51 PM »

I hope they just ban all discussion of current events from this board.

-tronski- · « **Reply #37 on:** November 18, 2003, 07:40:41 PM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
I hope they just ban all discussion of current events from this board.

Yeah...cause people won't fight over non- current events on this BBS as well

Tronsky

Westy · « **Reply #38 on:** November 18, 2003, 07:46:48 PM »

"I hope they just ban all discussion of current events from this board."

IMO there is too much pent up angst. Some folks, like MC_Honky here, should head to thier local recruiter and begin the process which would allow them to take a REALLY active part in what they think is righteuous.

AKIron · « **Reply #39 on:** November 18, 2003, 07:58:22 PM »

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Originally posted by Westy
"I hope they just ban all discussion of current events from this board."

IMO there is too much pent up angst. Some folks, like MC_Honky here, should head to thier local recruiter and begin the process which would allow them to take a REALLY active part in what they think is righteuous.

Some of us here have already been there and done that. Which is one of the reasons for the angst.

For a long time I had this image of Moslem warriors as bold and fearless fighters. That image has been dispelled many times over in recent years. Please don't tell me they are just fighting for their survival or their freedom so any tactics are justified.

Corsair · « **Reply #40 on:** November 18, 2003, 08:29:35 PM »

If you blame all Muslims in the world....you are a tard. Islam, believe it or not, teaches peace, that's right folks, PEACE. But there are very ignorant fanatics that are giving their whole religion a bad reputation.

MC_Honky, that is close to the attitude the middle eastern fanatics have to the west.

AKIron · « **Reply #41 on:** November 18, 2003, 08:55:39 PM »

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Originally posted by Corsair
If you blame all Muslims in the world....you are a tard. Islam, believe it or not, teaches peace, that's right folks, PEACE. But there are very ignorant fanatics that are giving their whole religion a bad reputation.

MC_Honky, that is close to the attitude the middle eastern fanatics have to the west.

I only blame all the Muslims that support the Palestinian terrorists and the ones that cheered when the US was attacked by terrorists. Have no idea just exactly how many that includes but yes, I blame all of those.

crabofix · « **Reply #42 on:** November 18, 2003, 09:34:34 PM »

AKIRON

I was waiting for the "flames" and they are heating up, enough to pop my corn.
But before the thread is Closed. An IN!!!

Munkii · « **Reply #43 on:** November 19, 2003, 12:03:05 AM »

I don't think people want this thread closed because of the video, the thread should be closed because of the ignorant comments towards one specific religion. I could care less about the video, if someone wants to watch it, I feel any money CNN made off the video should be given to the fallen soldiers relatives and children.

capt. apathy · « **Reply #44 on:** November 19, 2003, 12:35:22 AM »

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the thread should be closed because of the ignorant comments towards one specific religion

WHY? when someone makes an ignorant coment, it usually says more about the person doing the talking than the people being talked about.

why should the thresd be closed? all that would acomplish is doing the ignorant a favor by stopping them from being able to make an prettythang out of themselves (for the time being)