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Offline Kieran

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« Reply #285 on: November 29, 2003, 05:44:06 PM »
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Kieran have your ever been to Belgium or Swiss ?


No, but... what does that have to do with Quebec outlawing English signs on shops?
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« Reply #286 on: November 29, 2003, 06:17:45 PM »
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My guess is :  it's like your French example an urban legend :)


http://www.janda.org/b20/News%20articles/Language%20law

maybe, but look at these laws then tell me it is far fetched:

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An anonymous informant tipped the Quebec government. Then a stranger appeared, taking photographs. Soon a letter came, fining Bob Rice. The 60-year-old plumber was then convicted at a trial he did not attend. His tractor and truck were confiscated and put up for auction.

Rice's offense: a sign that read "BOB'S PLUMBING SERVICE & FARM SUPPLIES."

It was nailed onto a metal shed 240 feet off the public road in the small town of Venosta, Quebec, Rice said. The Quebec government said Rice had violated a law requiring small commercial signs to include French, with the French letters at least twice the size of those of any other language. The law, in effect since 1993, is strictly enforced.


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The original version of the sign law, better known as Bill 101, barred all languages other than French on outdoor commercial signs. The law was amended in 1993, after the United Nations Human Rights Committee intervened, calling it a human-rights violation. The new law requires that French be "markedly predominant."


here's a good one:

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The agency's letter instructed the Chomedey, Que., couple to either take their Web site off the Internet or update the site so it gives equal visibility to the French language. Failure to comply would result in a fine, the agency said.


http://aix1.uottawa.ca/~geist/globejune899.html



Pretty funny to me..... they have to Force people to deal with French to "protect" the culture. If they didn't have these laws, French would continue it's decline more than likely. Pretty sad law.
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« Reply #287 on: November 30, 2003, 04:06:43 AM »
Straffo, Nuke is right on all points and assumptions it's an anus law. :p

"Pretty funny to me..... they have to Force people to deal with French to "protect" the culture. If they didn't have these laws, French would continue it's decline more than likely. Pretty sad law."


Yep pretty sad indeed. :aok
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« Reply #288 on: November 30, 2003, 04:24:16 AM »
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No, but... what does that have to do with Quebec outlawing English signs on shops?

so you have zero experience of any federal multilingual country ?


Nuke what is your problem with people no respecting their law ?

You can say what you want : it's their law

The only having trouble with this Habu but we all know how insecure he is.

@Torque : it's perhaps a anal law but how should they deal with a langage imperialisme  ?

For exemple last time I've been to the supermarket some products were not only having an English name but were having also a description in english (the french one was under the bottom with a  pretty small font)
Now imagine the reversed experience.

And this anal law is perhaps because of what the Cajun have experimented in the "land of the free".
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« Reply #289 on: November 30, 2003, 04:45:35 AM »
What?! Canada condemned by the UN for human rights violations?! Haha, that is indeed funny.

Then again... getting your shop taken away because you put up a sign in another language does seem harsh...
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« Reply #290 on: November 30, 2003, 04:52:42 AM »
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What?! Canada condemned by the UN for human rights violations?! Haha, that is indeed funny.

Then again... getting your shop taken away because you put up a sign in another language does seem harsh...

If he choose to ignore such a basic regulation will he respect basic higiene rules ?
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« Reply #291 on: November 30, 2003, 07:59:25 AM »
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If he choose to ignore such a basic regulation will he respect basic higiene rules ?


Give me a break. You don't think being able to take someone's private property and auction it off simply because of the language of the sign is draconian? You aren't actually DEFENDING the law, are you?
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« Reply #292 on: November 30, 2003, 08:38:15 AM »
here's a good one....

do any of you morons actually live here.......no

its BILINGUAL.....If you have a Business here, and you wish to put up a sign...please do so in FRENCH and ENGLISH.....so that both cultures can understand.....and know WTF you are dealing with.....well well.....its so damn complicated...what I'm I to do.

maybe thats too much for Mr.Habu to understand.....he knows but one language only...and actually doesn't live here.....next time dweeb...come on over and GAIN the exp. instead of reading it somewhere and passing judgement....you actually might sound a little more intelligent.

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« Reply #293 on: November 30, 2003, 09:29:14 AM »
Does Montreal have a Chinatown like Victoria?

What language are the signs?

 
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« Reply #294 on: November 30, 2003, 10:48:01 AM »
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You can say what you want : it's their law

 


Kinda like theirs?

http://histclo.hispeed.com/country/ger/chron/c20iwnrp.html
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« Reply #295 on: November 30, 2003, 12:23:59 PM »
My, my, Slo, you actually are... slow.

The business in a bilingual area will put up a sign in two languages if it is necessary to do so. If the business owner doesn't do so, and the business fails because of it, then the point is made. What you are defending is thought policing. Go right ahead, but don't even BOTHER to tell me how enlightened your country or culture is, because... with laws like this, it isn't.

So much for your intellectual superiority, rising above petty insults as you have. ;)

Do you live in America? No? Why do you always have opinions on American laws and customs? hehe, rich...
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« Reply #296 on: November 30, 2003, 01:41:21 PM »
so what is being said here is that french is a dying language and it needs a lot of heavy handed socialism in order to hang in for another couple of decades or so?

this perhaps explains some of the socialists on this board.

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« Reply #297 on: November 30, 2003, 01:48:36 PM »
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Give me a break. You don't think being able to take someone's private property and auction it off simply because of the language of the sign is draconian? You aren't actually DEFENDING the law, are you?


May I  rape your daughter ?

After all it's just another draconian law that forbid me to do so.

Do you undertand this  "dura lex sed lex" ?

@Iron : you obviously understand as well as usually I won't waste my time explaining.
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« Reply #298 on: November 30, 2003, 01:51:43 PM »
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May I  rape your daughter ?

After all it's just another draconian law that forbid me to do so.

Do you undertand this  "dura lex sed lex" ?

@Iron : you obviously understand as well as usually I won't waste my time explaining.


I think I understand at least as well as you Straffo. I think you just can't or won't see past your own prejudice.
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« Reply #299 on: November 30, 2003, 01:52:12 PM »
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May I  rape your daughter ?

After all it's just another draconian law that forbid me to do so.

Do you undertand this  "dura lex sed lex" ?

@Iron : you obviously understand as well as usually I won't waste my time explaining.


Straffo, even for you it's a stretch to imply rape can be equated to language submersion.
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