Author Topic: Another Interstate sniper on the loose (Read 6675 times)

beet1e · « **Reply #105 on:** December 07, 2003, 10:43:24 AM »

Lazs - I guess you're just too fond of that silk blindfold to want to take it off. I have posted stats from your own FBI to show that homicide went up between 2000 and 2001 on a per capita basis, and has risen every year from 1999 by volume. You can't say that crime has gone down this year, because *this year* isn't over yet.

Besides, it would take the FBI etc. some time to compile/collate the figures to produce the stats.

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Originally posted by wrag
All of Europe has a very SIMILAR history. That seems to be Monarchs and feudalism. All of Europe .... Union or otherwise has never given it's people all the rights insisted upon by the Americans.

Wrag. I read your post more than once. You're quite wrong about Europe. You say that "All of Europe has a very SIMILAR history. That seems to be Monarchs and feudalism. ", and it's bollocks. Britain still has a Monarchy, whereas France underwent a bloody revolution in 1789 to get rid of Louis XVI and the monarchy itself. What could be more different? France wavered, but hasn't had a monarchy since about the early 19th century. I guess you just use your limited knowledge of European history (the bits you've seen on TV between commercial breaks?) and try to make them fit your argument here on the BBS.

Greece and Ireland are both republics... and their histories have been sooo similar. [/sarcasm] BTW Britain did not have a monarchy from 1649, following the execution of Charles I. The Commonwealth followed - until 1660.

Europe is based on Monarchs and feudalism???? Do you know the meaning of the words Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité? Do you know why the French flag is a tricolore, and what that represents? Did you know that Germany, France, Italy, Ireland, Greece, Portugal, Finland and others are not Monarchies at all but are Republics? Geeez, back to European history class for you, boy. Or if you don't like that idea, better not spout about things you know crap all about.

PS I'm not a Liberal. I supported Maggie Thatcher. Do you know her political orientation, or have I discovered another gap in your knowledge of European history/politics? Clue - think back to all the hugs with Ronald Reagan.

lazs2 · « **Reply #106 on:** December 07, 2003, 11:13:45 AM »

Homicide is down per capita from 1999 and there are more guns. Crime is down every year.... and there are more guns.... your homicide rate stays the same and you have banned guns.... your crime rate continues to rise and you have banned guns... why don't you remove your blindfold?

you gave up your rights for nothing.

You gave up yours and your countrymens rights to have the kind of day we had when your were here for nothing. Sorry to be harsh but you are not wearing hi tech earmuffs... when yours are on you can't hear normal conversation tones... even from me.

lazs

beet1e · « **Reply #107 on:** December 07, 2003, 01:11:23 PM »

Lazs,

In your normal tone of voice, I could have heard every word you said from 100 feet away - even with ear muffs on.

Yes, it was a fun day. The next one will have to be in Dixon too.

What rights did I give up? I am unaware of having anything taken from me.

wrag · « **Reply #108 on:** December 07, 2003, 03:08:46 PM »

Actually several of the States refused to sign on if they could not keep their slaves. So it seems it was a lesser of evils kinda thing. It was allowed so there would be a U.S., if they had not allowed it there would have been several different countries here perhaps.

Yes it took allot of years to finally get rid of slavery. However it was not for lack of trying right from the start. The arguments were quite bitter. Jefferson had some comments as did Washington. There was also the Mason Dixon line.

There are opinions that America was made even more possible by the American Indian cultures in place when the colonies were formed. Such as the Iroquois league.

Republic? Greece? Thought it was a Democracy at the start? You know the 2 wolves and the 1 sheep voting for what will be for lunch? It seems to me that to try and claim a specific form of government for Greece is rather difficult. They did experiment allot. In fact I thought the study of history refereed to as a classical education was a large part what the framers of our constitution seem to have had. Greece and Rome were a part of that.

The Irish? Thought they had an Ard Rie? Probably didn't spell that right. But understood it to mean High King?

Ugh need more coffee... probably trying to answer this much to early in my morning... allot of what I posted is in the form of questions. There is a reason for that. I also freely expressed I may have an incorrect understanding. Yet the basic differences in cultures and cultural background can not and should not be ignored. It's a integral part of every societies. It does affect how a society tends to think, how it see's itself, and how it perceives others.

I watched some woman talk for about 30 minutes on domestic violence very early this morning and found myself disagreeing with her approach and methods because I see the cause of domestic violence as having a different starting point. She was placing the blame on too many men thinking they owned the women and children as the starting point. I noticed she did not include that many women have feelings of ownership as well. Turned it off finally. Why do I put this in? I guess because to me where a view point starts is very important. The base or foundation of cultural, or a cultures thought perhaps. And IMHO much of what is being discussed in many of these threads relies very much on point of view.

Dang not comin out the way I'm thinkin it

lazs2 · « **Reply #109 on:** December 08, 2003, 08:20:49 AM »

beetle.. in england every part of our shooting day would have been illegal. you seem to feel that your laws are fine so.... you are part of the problem.

In the U.S. we originally did not allow women, slaves or people who didn't own land to vote. This is very workable and would improve the situation greatly.
lazs

beet1e · « **Reply #110 on:** December 08, 2003, 09:51:25 AM »

OK, we'll have another shooting day in Dixon. But next time, please don't run out of ammo for the .22 semi auto - Witness was it? I liked that one the best. The others were tough on my hands and I was unable to do any sewing or crochet work for two weeks afterwards.

lazs2 · « **Reply #111 on:** December 08, 2003, 10:33:06 AM »

plus... the increase in noodle size and weight caused your current back problems.

lazs