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Offline MC_Honky

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« on: December 06, 2003, 04:08:26 PM »

Offline Martlet

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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2003, 04:22:53 PM »
HAHAHAHAHAHA

Offline Saurdaukar

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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2003, 04:27:29 PM »
Lesser of two evils.

Offline Sandman

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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2003, 04:38:34 PM »
Nothing says "liberation" quite like barbed wire.
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Offline Charon

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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2003, 04:53:37 PM »
It's worked so well in Israel too, a real history of success to follow.

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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2003, 04:56:48 PM »
Israel's policy's may be only 50% effective, but its better than the alternative - 0%.

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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2003, 04:56:50 PM »
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It's worked so well in Israel too, a real history of success to follow.

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Even the NY Times says it's worked in Iraq, too.

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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2003, 05:01:50 PM »
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Even the NY Times says it's worked in Iraq, too.


Well that settles it then.
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Offline ravells

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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2003, 05:26:29 PM »
The British tried it in South Africa in the late 1800s and Malaysia in the 1950s (they were called 'new villiages') they worked to a limited extent, but were not too effective. All it did was to alienate the local populace.

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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2003, 05:43:30 PM »
How about German strategy against partisans in Slavic countries in WW2 ? For every wounded German, shoot 50 locals. For every killed German shoot 100 locals.

Nothing works better in alienating local population.

But barbed wire and ID cards are a good start.

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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2003, 06:05:32 PM »
Best Part is:


"This fence is here for your protection," reads the sign posted in front of the barbed-wire fence. "Do not approach or try to cross, or you will be shot."



Lol...no wonder why the world hates us.

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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2003, 06:15:37 PM »
I don't!

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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2003, 06:23:23 PM »
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Best Part is:


"This fence is here for your protection," reads the sign posted in front of the barbed-wire fence. "Do not approach or try to cross, or you will be shot."



Lol...no wonder why the world hates us.


Just think, all they have to do is turn over the guys shooting at the troops and it will all be over.

the world doesn't hate "us".  Just you.

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Colonel Sassaman is feared by many of Abu Hishma's villagers, who hold him responsible for the searches and razor wire around the town. But some said they understood what a difficult job he had, trying to pick out a few bad men from a village of 7,000 people.

"Colonel Sassaman, you should come and live in this village and be a sheik," Hassan Ali al-Tai told the colonel outside the checkpoint.

The colonel smiled, and Mr. Tai turned to another visitor.

"Colonel Sassaman is a very good man," he said. "If he got rid of the barbed wire and the checkpoint, everyone would love him."

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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2003, 06:28:07 PM »
And if that happened in America, what would your reaction be, Martlett?

Why, of course you'd turn over the shooters to the people who put up the barbed wire.

Martlett, it is only when you have lived under the occupation of foreigners (whether they mean good or ill) will you understand. I'm very happy you have not had to live through that situation, but when we were under the japs in WW2 in Malaysia, and then the Brits, we wanted out.

Now, I agree that Iraq would descend into chaos if the allies pulled out, but barbed wire is not the way to achieve a stable situation.

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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2003, 06:34:11 PM »
I wish I were a military genius too, so I could tell the army how stupid they're being.
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