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Offline Shuckins

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« Reply #45 on: December 08, 2003, 04:25:12 PM »
Esthetically, rap has little to commend it.  It is mind-numbingly repetitive in beat, which indicates a lack of real musical talent.

So much of it glorifies violence, racism, and contempt for women that I find it surprising to hear MT defending it.  Some of rap's lyrics are as reprehensible as anything you would find in Mein Kampf.

There are quite a few black people taking a stand against the hate embodied in rap.  Why don't you guys do the same?  Or has rape and murder in the name of racial retribution become socially acceptable in your circle.

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Offline Sikboy

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« Reply #46 on: December 08, 2003, 04:41:15 PM »
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There are quite a few black people taking a stand against the hate embodied in rap.  Why don't you guys do the same?  Or has rape and murder in the name of racial retribution become socially acceptable in your circle.


See, the problem isn't so much being against violent and hate filled rap, as it is lumping it all together (and includinig hip hop as well) and paiting it with a wide brush that confuses me (especially when we are instructed that there is a difference between "new country" and unspecificed other country.

Not all rap is full of violence and racism, just like many other genre of music, you can find whatever fits your taste, if you enjoy the basic style. I like mind numbing bass lines, provided you have enough volume. I really liked "Straight outta Compton" when it came out (and even to this day).  Mostly for the same reason I liked the movie "Scarface" or "Goodfellahs" Not because drugs, and murder were acceptable in my circles, but because there is a part of me (and I'm guessing I'm not alone here) that wants to say "eff the rules, I'm tony ****ing Montana, I'll do whatever the **** I want, and it's going to take 100 well armed men to stop me." These things appeal to the Id I suppose.

Anyhow, the message seemed to get taken to heart (Life ain't nothin but *****es and money) And things went downhill from there.

So, I'm not a fan of Ice Tea's "Cop Killer" or Ice Cube's "Black Korea" Both more than ten years old interesting enough. But to derive from these examples, and admitedly others, that two entire Genre are completely without merit seems a bit odd to me.


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« Last Edit: December 09, 2003, 08:28:39 AM by Sikboy »
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Offline midnight Target

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« Reply #47 on: December 08, 2003, 06:23:02 PM »
Not defending "Rap" so much as attacking all these sweeping generalizations...

ALL Generalizations are always wrong.

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« Reply #48 on: December 08, 2003, 06:55:11 PM »
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ALL Generalizations are always wrong.
 


including this one.


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« Reply #49 on: December 08, 2003, 07:09:00 PM »
Yeah as bad as some of the rap is, the "new country" stuff (e.g. CMT) is an abomination.

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« Reply #50 on: December 08, 2003, 09:07:16 PM »
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Not defending "Rap" so much as attacking all these sweeping generalizations...

ALL Generalizations are always wrong.

:cool:


Generally speaking of course.....right? :)

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« Reply #51 on: December 09, 2003, 08:56:36 AM »
If the KKK was smart they woulda been behind the whole rap thing..

still... no matter who is behind it... I could use a good riot.

lazs