Ref "the Lazs MA strat idea" - oh to one of the "talented" few ....

[sax]

Don't think any furballer--lazs included-- could care less how any body plays the game.
Most are quik with the when they shoot down or are shot down by anyone who takes the time to fite.

Most--myself included will not any player for decreasing thier chance to have fun down to 25%.

Strat guts certainly don't have to scan the map or dar-bar wondering where all the targets are--or whether they will be there after flying a sector on a big map--hence the reason big maps and fuel porking are not fair to the less than silent majority.

Imagine if furballers could take  75% of your targets with one plane and 15 minutes to waste.

[muckmaw]

Problem there, Sax-

We normally have to fly 3-4 or more sectors to reach a marked strat target.

Often times, our target will be attacked and damaged by another buff group before we arrive, so we have a second target lined up.

Milkrunning, and Scorepadding are so rampant when a strat target is 1-2 sectors away, that the score potatos got them down before we can even plan a strike.

Believe me, we fly multi-sector missions for nothing all the time. It's not a furball only problem.

[lazs2]

sparks... you are free to pursue any kind of fun in AH that is available..  no matter how boring or talentless a normal person would find it but...

Where I have problems with it is when the the effort (or lack thereof) has a lopsided effect.

one person porking fuel has a lopsided effect for his "effort" on many players.    I have no say in how the game is run or organized but I do feel that it is fine for me to point out these percieved problems and unfairness.

It is the lopsidedness and unfair aspect of such actions that is the cause of the animosity not I.

rarely is a furballer singled out by the strat sis.. guys.. as ruining their gameplay.   perhaps we have been blamed as a group for not playing the way they would like us to but... we have no real effect on how they have fun in the game.   if we shoot one down... well... he had as good a chance of winning as losing.

lazs

[AWMac]

Originally posted by Jackal1
Well Sparks, see there`s a reason Liz....... errrrrrrrr Laz a.k.a. Humpy The Wonder Pooch uses such terms as sad, talentless, and attention starved. He is familiar with these terms because those are his characteristics.
He`s just a sad, talentless, attention starved little poochy pup in a land with no fire hydrants and no step stool to reach an ankle.

[slimm50]

Originally posted by muckmaw
 P.S. I put on my robe and wizrds hat before flying....

Aight, aight...

[ManeDog]

I hear in the DA  there are no strat guys?   Ever thought of takin all your furballs in there?

[mars01]

I hear in the DA there are no strat guys? Ever thought of takin all your furballs in there?

See all posts prior to Fester map about this.  Get up to speed boy lol.

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by ManeDog
I hear in the DA  there are no strat guys?   Ever thought of takin all your furballs in there?

Man .... why didn't I think of that ? That idea/notion has never been made before ... ManeDog ... you are BRILLIANT !!!  

[Curval]

Originally posted by lazs2
we have no real effect on how they have fun in the game.   if we shoot one down... well... he had as good a chance of winning as losing.

lazs

I rarely agree with lazs in the O'Club..but Sparks, what he is saying about the game is summed up nicely in the above quote.

You guys that bomb bases down to 25% fuel all across the front inpinge on those of us who fly to get into dogfights.  You simply make it boring for us.

How do furballers make things boring for you strat guys?  Answer..they don't.  

The problem is that the "fun" that many of you strat guys seem to have is simply to make it boring for the rest of us.  THAT is lazs' point and why he jabs you guys with insults.

[muckmaw]

The problem I'm having is that as a part time strat player, I've never bombed fuel tanks at a base. Why bother? You just make the enemy use a more fuel efficient plane, or fly one way trips. They're still going to hit your base.

If I was to disable an enemy, I bang his troop center, the city that supplies it, and all the front line barracks. That puts the advance out of the question for 3 hours.

Now if some suicidal guy wants to fly a goon from 4 sectors back, he's welcome too it.

This is how you stop the steamroller, and this is how you turn the tide of battle in this game.

Know how many times I've planned and executed this mission successfully? Once.

And I'll never forget it. It was the best raid  I ever pulled because it was so freakin hard to organize and execute.

[mars01]

You are absolutely right muck.

That would stop the horde, but allow the furballers to go on.  It seems that people dont really care about stopping the horde they only want to stop the furball.

[sax]

Good point Muck

Maybe more of everything at a base would help.

[vorticon]

so the answer to everyones problem is as always...fix the strat system...make real strat targets more effective while making pseudo strat less effective...


or even worse the furballers could simply change bases...but that would mean almost 5 more minutes of flying and we cant possibly have that

[Hades55]

Ok you want war ? there you go......
map makers this is for you..
One land ring 5k alt.
In the center the central lake with an island and a neutral field who some one
will conquer it first.
Every country only One field around the ring but double acks double size sity double VH and double strat.
And Only one port.
He who owns the central field and the field of another country wins.

[Sparks]

Ok so maybe I can't get a point across cozz 99% of people have missed it.

Lazs you may consider me humourless but after a while it gets tiring and worse - it starts to create a belief that some people are part of an eleite few who "know how it should be" and everyone else is somehow "not normal"

no matter how boring or talentless a normal person would find it but...

Your own words....

So why is the game I want perverted and yours "normal" ???

And by the way you are ASSUMING the game as it is now is how I want it - it isn't

Funnily enough I'm like you - nothing annoys me more than looging on and having to hunt round for a feild not at 25% fuel. Or to look for an even DarBar not 40 vs 1. Because I do fly fighters as well ........

The idea of going to a feild simply to pork fuel to stop people getting to you bores me to tears and promotes the horde moving front.

I'm going to post my thoughts about gameplay in another thread because I don't want to take the emphasis away from this point.

Regardless of the gameplay as it stands Lazs, and the cheerleaders who give a high five for every thinly veiled insult, are dividing the players and trying to label those outside the "fold of higher knowledge" as abnormal and somehow lesser. It may have been humour at first but this has been months and its past that.

I like a more strategic ENTIRE game and that does not make me different or lesser than anyone else - get it NOW ??

Sparks