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Offline Tibbets

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« on: December 12, 1999, 11:37:00 PM »
Im new to WW2 planes and have been trying to catch up on some history. I came across a couple of planes that IMHO would add to the strat system a lot.

Maybe have a DC3 to transport supplies(fuel ammo etc.) to fields where supplies are low or disabled. It is a defenseless plane so it would require fighter escorts, which means it would take STRATEGY. Something I hope to see a lot more of here.

Or how bout a B-32 for recon missions. Maybe have the factories, HQ , acks etc. rebuild in a different place of the map every time, thus making us have to keep up with whats going on more. Instead of everyone memorizing the loc of every ack and every srat target.

I dunno ...just my thoughts at 1Am
Would love to hear everyone elses

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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 1999, 02:15:00 AM »
Just thought I would let you know, (you may already), the c47 we currently have in the game is basically a DC 3.  I do, however, think that the general idea you're getting at here is a good one.  Perhaps, and this would be even better when we get vehicles, we could have a sort of supply convoy that supplies the bases.  Destroying this convoy would reduce the amount of supplies available to a base. (Kind of like destroying the fuel tanks and ammo bunkers currently.)  As for the c47, (c46 & ju52 too if we get them), it could be used to fly in emergency supplies to a base that has been damaged.  (Maybe all this could be worked into the regeneration multiplier, as opposed to the current flat 30mins rebuild time we have now.)  I'd also like to see some way of controling how fast aircraft can respawn at a base, maybe something like this can work.  (Limits on numbers of planes available, etc.) I'm sure when we get vehicles, something like this may happen.
Of course to do all of this, we'd need attack aircraft.  Il-2, FW 190, Typhoon, P-47, A-26, to go along with our F4U would be a lot of fun IMO.    (Another plane I'd like to see is ground attack varient of the B-25 with the 75mm cannon in the nose, just imagine how much damage you could do with that thing.)  At least this would give us some variety beyond the usual b-17, c47 stuff we currently have.  (Not to say I don't like what we have, anyone who looks at my c47 sortie numbers can see that.  After all we are still in fairly early beta and this game is already more fun that any other flight sim I've played.  Great job so far HTC!   )

Recon flights, hmmm, that could be fun too.  Maybe this could be a way be could get the mosquito put into the game.  (There was a great German recon plane too, but the name of it is escaping me right now.  Do-335 I think, it's the one with a prop on the front and back.  My apoligies to all the LW fans out there if I got it wrong.   )  Maybe someone else can tell me, I never thought that the B-32 ever got past the test flight stage by the end of WWII.  Anyway, I'll quit mumbling.  I'm sure recon flights could be put into the game somehow, but right now I don't see how we could do it.  I'm sure that HT will find a way though.

Just thought I'd share some of my ideas.  I'm sure someone else can come up with even better ones though.

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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 1999, 07:39:00 AM »

 The B-32 Dominator was used in WWII.
 But imho it would not add anything to any WWII aircombat/fihht sim other than possibly as yet another aircraft should some sim really be out of aircraft ideas to model.
 The plane was like a mutt. It looked like several planes all tossed together.
 TO make it worse the crews and pilots reportedly hated the thing. Especially it's lousy reliability.
 Sure it has alot of MG's, it's fast and carrys a huge load but with so few made and the inability to model the aircrafts shortcomings it could actually be more of a "porkers joy" than an A-26.

 Here are a few websites (3rd one down is slow) with some info and a few pictures:
 http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/baugher_us/b032-01.html
 http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/bombers/b3-61.htm
 http://canopus.lpi.msk.su/~watson/b32.html

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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 1999, 07:42:00 AM »
The C-47 "resupply" idea seems to be a good one, and I haven't heard of any opposition to it - after all, who is going to be against having more low&slow, defenceless targets to add to their score?

Would the supplies be air-dropped, or would the C-47 have to land and unload at the airfield? Maybe both - although landing would give a better effect, because you assume some supplies are damaged in an airdrop  

If the clouds were lower and much bigger so as to obscure targets from the high B17G's, then you might want to fly weather reconnaissance missions. I'm sure buff types would like it if they were getting radio reports(on the "weather channel"  ) of which targets are obscured by low cloud. An option to strip the fighters of guns etc, for a little speed increase for this type of mission would be nice.   Maybe correct recon types like a Bf109 with only the 20mm and GM1 boost instead of MW50, etc?

The B-32 was a competitor for the B-29, in case the Boeing design was no good. It flew some bombing and photorecon missions in 1945. It was involved in the last combat mission of WW2.

You did get it horribly wrong   - The Do-335 was supposed to be a day and night(different versions) bomber interceptor. Never entered service AFAIK. But by far the best reconnaissance plane of WW2 was the Ar234 "Blitz" - the first operational jet bomber.  

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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 1999, 09:47:00 AM »
Resupplies are planned, but they won't be mandatory to bring a field back up.  It will just expedite the process.



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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 1999, 01:45:00 PM »
Cool Pyro!

I would love to see auto regeneration of fields turned off in certain scenarios. Let the factories produce the supplies, but make us distribute them manually.

Maybe on recon missions, if a recon plane discovers a factory etc. it becomes visible on the map. I just think its a bad idea to have the targets rebuild in the same place every time.

I know all of this is a long way off, but just something to think about. Besides its more interesting than arguing over FM to me

Havent said it yet but , HTC, you guys are doing a great job. Im hooked!

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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 1999, 08:05:00 PM »
Thanks for the info Juzz & Westy.  Just goes to show how much I know about LW planes.    I do recall hearing about the AR 234, however.  Unfortunately for the LW it came too late in the war to have any real impact, first test flight being on June 15, 1943.  (Does anybody know what year HT has been using as the criteria for what model of a particular plane we get, or is it just the most produced model? If it is late 44, then we could have planes such as the above.  AR234B-0 entered service in June 44. )

It's good to hear that HT has already planned for some sort of resupply strategy elements.  

IMO we could either drop or land supplies to a base, depending on how badly it was damaged.  Dropping supplies is probably the more realistic method for a base that is under attack.

Glad to see that HT has been reading our ideas, even if he is already way ahead of us.  

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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 1999, 08:18:00 PM »
I think the idea of target recon is a great idea!  We could do what was done in real life: pull the guns out of a P-51...maybe put in some camera's  

It would be neat to make us search for targets like the radar...with some sort of film viewer built into the game.

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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 1999, 07:38:00 AM »
Hey Bloom, my pleasure. It's more than just a logon and die thing for me  

"Glad to see that HT has been reading our ideas, even if he is already way ahead of us"

...Well the day we get ahead of him (or the HTC crew in general) is the time I'm off to find greener pastures.  

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