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Offline jigsaw

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Bush antics for tomorrow (12/17)
« on: December 16, 2003, 01:54:58 PM »
I'm not going to call him stupid, but...
Anyone else find it ironic that at the Century of Flight celebration, there's a TFR?

http://tfr.faa.gov/TFR/jsp/save_pages/detail_3_1835.html

Actual TFR  
FDC 3/1835 ZDC PART 1 OF 4 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS KILL DEVIL HILLS, NORTH CAROLINA, DECEMBER 17, 2003 LOCAL. PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141 OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN 25 NMR UP TO BUT NOT INCLUDING FL180 OF 360106N/0754017W OR THE RBX020006.0 FROM 0312171200 (0700 LOCAL 12/17/03) UNTIL 0312171700 (1200 LOCAL 12/17/03); WITHIN 10 NMR UP TO BUT NOT INCLUDING FL180 OF 360106N/0754017W OR THE RBX020006.0 FROM 0312171200 (0700 LOCAL 12/17/03) UNTIL 0312171700 (1200 LOCAL 12/17/03); EXCEPT AS SPECIFIED BELOW AND/OR UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY ATC: A. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS WITHIN A 10 NMR AREA LISTED ABOVE ARE PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR: 1. LAW ENFORCEMENT AND MILITARY AIRCRAFT, DIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE (USSS), EMERGENCY MEDICAL FLIGHTS, AND REGULARLY SCHEDULED COMMERCIAL PASSENGER AND CARGO AIRCRAFT THAT MEET OR EXCEED THE TSAS DOMESTIC SECURITY INSPECTION PROGRAM STANDARDS AND ARE ARRIVING INTO END PART 1 OF 4
FDC 3/1835 ZDC PART 2 OF 4 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS KILL DEVIL HILLS, NC, DECEMBER 17, 2003 AND/OR DEPARTING FROM 14 CFR PART 139 AIRPORTS. 2. FOR OPERATIONS WITHIN THE TFR ALL MEDICAL FLIGHT OPERATION COMPANIES SHALL COORDINATE WITH THE USSS PRIOR TO THIS NOTAM GOING INTO EFFECT TO AVOID POTENTIAL DELAYS. B. WITHIN THE AIRSPACE BETWEEN 10 NMR AND 25 NMR RESPECTIVELY AREA LISTED ABOVE: 1. ALL AIRCRAFT ENTERING OR EXITING THE 25 NM RADIUS TFR SHALL BE ON AN ACTIVE IFR OR VFR FLIGHT PLAN WITH A DISCRETE CODE ASSIGNED BY AN AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL (ATC) FACILITY. AIRCRAFT SHALL BE SQUAWKING THE DISCRETE CODE PRIOR TO DEPARTURE AND AT ALL TIMES WHILE IN THE TFR. 2. ALL AIRCRAFT ENTERING OR EXITING THE 25 NM RADIUS TFR MUST REMAIN IN TWO-WAY RADIO COMMUNICATIONS WITH ATC. 3. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATING WITHIN THE AIRSPACE BETWEEN A 10 TO 25 NM RADIUS TFR AND OPERATING AT ALTITUDES OF UP TO BUT NOT END PART 2 OF 4

FDC 3/1835 ZDC PART 3 OF 4 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS KILL DEVIL HILLS, NC, DECEMBER 17, 2003 INCLUDING FL180 ARE LIMITED TO AIRCRAFT ARRIVING OR DEPARTING LOCAL AIRFIELDS AND ATC MAY AUTHORIZE TRANSIT OPERATIONS. AIRCRAFT MAY NOT LOITER. 4. FLIGHT TRAINING, PRACTICE INSTRUMENT APPROACHES, AEROBATIC FLIGHT, GLIDER OPERATIONS, PARACHUTE OPERATIONS, ULTRALIGHT HANG GLIDING, BALLOON OPERATIONS AGRICULTURE/CROP DUSTING, ANIMAL POPULATION CONTROL FLIGHT OPERATIONS, BANNER TOWING OPERATIONS, COMMERCIAL CARGO CARRIER OPERATIONS THAT FAIL TO MEET OR EXCEED THE TSAS DOMESTIC SECURITY INSPECTION PROGRAM STANDARDS; ARE NOT AUTHORIZED. 5. ALL U.S. SECRET SERVICE CLEARED AIRCRAFT OPERATORS BASED IN THE AREA SHOULD NOTIFY THE US SECRET SERVICE PRIOR TO THEIR DEPARTURE. 6. ALL MEDICAL FLIGHT OPERATION COMPANIES SHALL COORDINATE WITH THE USSS PRIOR TO THIS NOTAM GOING INTO EFFECT TO AVOID POTENTIAL DELAYS WHEN THE NOTAM IS IN EFFECT. C. IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATORS CHECK NOTAMS FREQUENTLY FOR POSSIBLE REQUIRED CHANGES TO THIS TFR PRIOR TO END PART 3 OF 4

FDC 3/1835 ZDC PART 4 OF 4 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS KILL DEVIL HILLS, NC, DECEMBER 17, 2003. OPERATIONS WITHIN THIS REGION. END PART 4 OF 4

Offline Fishu

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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2003, 02:01:04 PM »
Some terrorist might actually fly wright flyer at bush..

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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2003, 02:05:02 PM »
Kind of like Clinton getting a haircut on the LAX tarmac. holding up flights all over the country.
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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2003, 02:15:03 PM »
OMG just terrible I tell you, that evil doer Bush...
GWB could drop his fork on the carpet at dinner and you liberals will be complaining about the stain on the white house carpet costing taxpayer money to clean.
You belong here http://www.democraticunderground.com
these people actually want to read your liberal bush complaints..

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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2003, 02:20:25 PM »
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OMG just terrible I tell you, that evil doer Bush...


Being a Republican, Demo, Lib, or Conservative has absolutely squat to do with why I posted this.

It's because I'm a pilot who sees the irony in the possibility of a vet with an old piper cub or someone with a homebuilt experimental not being able to participate.

Too many people would rather point a finger and call names than see the big picture these days.

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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2003, 02:27:06 PM »
Ya I guess you weekend pilots in you homemade planes would be good to have flying around the air space with air force one, while we are at war, having suffered from and airline attack.
Go right ahead get in the air.
jeez you pain in Arses.
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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2003, 02:36:36 PM »
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jeez you pain in Arses


:lol Whatever. Call me when you've earned an advanced pilots rating and have a sense of humor.

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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2003, 02:41:59 PM »
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Originally posted by JBA
Kind of like Clinton getting a haircut on the LAX tarmac.


This is true, however...


 holding up flights all over the country. [/QUOTE]


...this part is the RW spin...didn't happen.

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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2003, 03:31:37 PM »
First off you don't know me or weather I have a pilots license or if I've  served in one of the armed forces as a pilot.

Secondly why do you think you deserve to fly in that air space?

Just because you can?

I find your post self important.
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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2003, 03:43:23 PM »
JBA you're still lacking a sense of humor so guess I'll spell the whole thing out for you....

Century of Flight Celebration, nobody gets to fly due to TFR, look up the definition of irony.

End of point.

Thanks for the attitude killing the humor I tried to bring to the forum.

Dropping out of this thread now due to...I'm not getting dragged into a finger pointing, narcissistic debate and have my posting privs revolked.

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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2003, 03:50:28 PM »
If you had labeled your post, "Oh the Irony" instead of jabbing at Bush, perhaps it would have been taken another way.