Author Topic: Return of the King (Read 2895 times)

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #30 on:** December 19, 2003, 12:31:34 PM »

Return of the D&D homos standing in line wearing elf suits and plastic swords.

Sikboy · « **Reply #31 on:** December 19, 2003, 01:45:39 PM »

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In the time they showed the stupid fires of gondor going to rohan and arwens biological clock ticking they could have included the scouring of the shire. The book with out the scouring of the shire is a different story.

I might be one of the few, but I'm glad they left that out. As I told my wife on the way out of the theater: "If you thought the movie wouldn't let go at the end, you should try the book"

I liked the movie a lot. My favorite part was watching the Rohirrim Riding for Gondor. That was pretty cool. Im not sure why, but it was my favorite part.

-Sik

mold · « **Reply #32 on:** December 19, 2003, 02:41:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Sikboy
I might be one of the few, but I'm glad they left that out. As I told my wife on the way out of the theater: "If you thought the movie wouldn't let go at the end, you should try the book"

I agree it doesn't belong in the movie, but it was a good part of the book imo. He builds up some characters in a series of quests, they come back to find a bunch of *******s in charge, and the returning travellers kick some ass. A good plot.

Pongo · « **Reply #33 on:** December 19, 2003, 03:50:03 PM »

That whole chapter would be a very short maybe 15 minutus in the book but really shows the growth of the hobbit characters.

I also think that if they were filming the movie starting today. They would be better off with CG elves

Nath[BDP] · « **Reply #34 on:** December 19, 2003, 04:32:02 PM »

It was lots of fun to watch. I was dissapointed that they didn't explore why Denethor was so warped, though. When this is exposed in the book, that Denethor had been looking through another palantir stone and was exposed to such evil and powerful visions by Sauron that he lost all his pride will to resist I was surprised. I was also waiting for the Lieutenant of the Tower of Barad-dur to meet Aragorn and his army at the Black Gate with Frodo and Sam's equipment; but with the way the movie was organized, that scene would have lost all of its suspense. I just wanted to see how diabolic he would look on screen. ;p

The books are basically a great story with wonderful plot, and the movies--especially the last two--are thematically action flicks. 'tis why the first remains my favorite of the movies: it is the most intimate. But that's how high budget movies are made today. At least the LoTR series, that blends the action and drama quite well, doesn't present itself as as a pretentious, poorely written borefest ala Master and Commander or Cold Mountain. Can't believe they are nominated for anything. At least I saw them for free.

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but i love animal.

Maniac · « **Reply #35 on:** December 19, 2003, 04:37:30 PM »

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but i love animal.

Aint that sweet!!!

ravells · « **Reply #36 on:** December 19, 2003, 05:49:58 PM »

It is all based around prince charle's private fantasy...wont happen though

RightF00T · « **Reply #37 on:** December 19, 2003, 05:58:48 PM »

So...any hints to who the retarded/burn-victim Orc was supposed to be?

ravells · « **Reply #38 on:** December 19, 2003, 06:01:12 PM »

my mum.

Animal · « **Reply #39 on:** December 19, 2003, 10:58:23 PM »

<3 nath

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So...any hints to who the retarded/burn-victim Orc was supposed to be?

The retard from The Goonies.

SOB · « **Reply #40 on:** December 19, 2003, 11:39:44 PM »

LOL, I thought the same friggin' thing when I saw him. "CHUUUNK!"

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #41 on:** December 20, 2003, 09:01:46 AM »

Saw it last night.

Got to say I am disapointed.

Forced dialogue, no smooth transition from sceen to sceen, strange occurances that made no sense to those of us that cant speak Elvish.

Overall a fine movie, but I think it suffers from 'Return of the Jedi' syndrome.

Youve got the first, and the best movie that started it - Fellowship/ANH - youve got the second movie, which was the better movie from all accounts, yet cant lay claim to 'the original' - TTT/Empire - and the last film, which appears to be a soap opera of loose ends being tied up and a collection of 'stuff' thrown together to make an 'epic' film but failing - RotK/RotJ.

SOILERS---------------

I was really hoping the movie would have the same 'feel' as the trailer - but it didnt. Aragorn's 'speech' when he rallys his men looked awe inspiring in the trailer - but looked like a poor attempt to mimic Mel Gibson in the film.

How many frikken times can Frodo "die?"

Not having read RotK yet, I was surprised to see a few things - namely the total lack of main charectar deaths. Granted these are books written some time ago - but in order to convey the significance of the task (destroying the ring) you need to shock an audience by showing them what is willingly sacrificed in order to attain this. I think Frodo should have dove in with the ring and died. I also think one of the other two Hobbits should have died. The Dwarf would have been a nice touch - Baromir, etc.

Everyone was just fine at the end - whats that crap? It felt like a cheap fairy tale or the ending of a Zelda videogame.

Some things I dont understand.

Why did Frodo and Bilbo leave with the elves at the end?

Where was Saruman this whole time?

Why was Faromir's pop nuts?

Fellowship was surprisingly good.

Towers was outstanding.

Return fell short.

midnight Target · « **Reply #42 on:** December 20, 2003, 09:29:10 AM »

Saw it last night too.

I found it very satisfying, but Saur's questions are valid. Anyone who is not familiar with the books would be confused by some of the events. My wife had many questions similar to yours. I think this story could have been 4 good movies. Jackson tried to do too much without sufficient explaination. Hopefully the extended version will fill in more of the holes.

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Frodo and Bilbo get a free pass on the Elven love boat because they were ring bearers. The ring causes permanent damage to it's bearers. Sam gets a ride too (if you're geeky enough to read the appendicies you find this out.) beacause he too bore the ring for a short time.

Where was Saruman? - He plays a pivotal role in the "Scouring of the Shire" section of the book. He is supposed to be guarded by Treebeard and friends, but he is let go out of compasion and proceeds to cause havoc in the Shire. The returning hobbitts take care of that little business in herioc fashion.

Faramir's Pop Nuts? - (Had to read that a few times) In the book Denethor has a Palantir (seeing stone) He sees what Sauron lets him see however. The last thing he is allowed to see are the Corsairs (ships) sailing up from the South. This drives him mad as he thinks the ships carry even more enemy. (When in fact Aragorn has already taken them for his ghost army.)

Octavius · « **Reply #43 on:** December 20, 2003, 09:40:11 AM »

Overall I loved it.

The ghost army was insane. Were they that effective in the book at fighting and the "mop up" job as depicted in the battle scenes?

Also, the ending "embrace" between Sam and Frodo was a few seconds too long and the kiss to the forehead didn't help... Along with the affectionate gazes, it gave it a minor homosexual flare

Nazgul question -- How does the Witch King "die" in the book? I thought the Nazgul were undead (not dead, but not living) and could not be "killed" by a man. Yet, a woman and a hobbit have no trouble dealing with him.

midnight Target · « **Reply #44 on:** December 20, 2003, 09:41:52 AM »

He couldn't be killed by a MAN.

The Witch King slaying is pretty true to the book.