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Offline AKcurly

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« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2003, 03:57:13 PM »
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Looks like Dean at this stage to me; and I think they'll lose if they pick him. Clark would be the better choice, IMO, but I don't think they can bring themselves to nominate a General. ;)


I don't remember the exact phrasing, but Eisenhower expressed great concern about civilians (as president) having to deal with the military industrial complex.   He said something like "how will they know whether the military is blowing smoke up their butts when they say 'we have to have this weapons system.'"

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« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2003, 04:37:31 PM »
Not a primary vote has been cast yet and everyone thinks Dean is the man

Last primary season, everyone thought McCain was the man...service record, moderate, nice book...and now he's the kook

We'll see.  Clark is a putz.  Capturing Saddam sucked a lot of the wind from their sails.

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« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2003, 04:45:37 PM »
Lieberman's the only dem I'd seriously consider. He was more middle of the road 'till he threw in his lot with Gore. On his own I'm betting he returns to his own values. Can't blame him for vascillating a bit, he is a politician afterall.
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« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2003, 05:03:04 PM »
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10bears not at all....but having and still serve over in that area of the world the things that Clark did well....lets just say the guys that had few choice comments about Clark were correct. And after spending countless hours getting shot at from the POS's on the ground...lets just say I have a bit of insight on the whole issue that others might not.....


Hugh Shelton talked about integrity issues but never went into detail about what these issues were. You seem to be doing the same thing. While spending countless hours getting shot at, were any of your American G.I. buddies killed in action?..

What Shelton might be getting at here, and from what I’ve read, Clark bucked the Pentagon on several occasions -- Bringing in the choppers, timing of troop deployment that sort of thing. He thought outside the box. Is that bad for the military?. Yes. Is that bad for the Presidency? NO. The President should be someone that can see the big picture.

Wining a war in Europe without losing a single solider in combat ought to mean something. Being first in your class at West Point should rank a little higher than being a C+ legacy student at Yale. Serving your country in uniform for 34 years shows more honor and character than someone spending 22 years dead drunk wouldn’t you agree Mr. Guttboy?

No. The G.O.P. is doing everything they can to see to it Clark is not the candidate. I was just watching Fox news,.. the talking heads were saying Dean is the frontrunner and Leberman and all the rest of the pack are far behind. They’re careful not the mention Clarks name. Now why is that?.. Over on the Freeper board, they’re talking about switching over to democrat just to vote for Dean in the primary. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out the G.O.P. were contributing money to the Dean campaign.

If enough people were able to educate Dean supporters and middle of the road Republicans that Wes Clark was the man for the job.. In spite of the Neocons best efforts Clark becomes the Democratic candidate, Bush will be in for a long hard slosh.

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« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2003, 05:08:47 PM »
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« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2003, 05:11:00 PM »
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Wining a war in Europe without losing a single solider in combat ought to mean something. Being first in your class at West Point should rank a little higher than being a C+ legacy student at Yale. Serving your country in uniform for 34 years shows more honor and character than someone spending 22 years dead drunk wouldn’t you agree Mr. Guttboy?
 


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« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2003, 05:30:08 PM »
As a person who lives in England. I am very happy that you now say 'arse' rather than 'ass'

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« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2003, 05:35:14 PM »
Here's a new campaign video American's Son

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« Reply #38 on: December 19, 2003, 05:36:24 PM »
Americans' Son....surely?

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« Reply #39 on: December 19, 2003, 06:29:17 PM »
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Not a primary vote has been cast yet and everyone thinks Dean is the man

Last primary season, everyone thought McCain was the man...service record, moderate, nice book...and now he's the kook


That's not true. The media loved McCain, but the Republican Party didn't. They were all-Bush from the get-go.

Dean is the only Dem candidate that generates any energy, even if it is fanatical energy. Even though I disagree with virtually everything Dean stands for, he at least does stand for some things. What does Clark stand for? "I'm not Bush"?

I don't think any Dem is going to win the nomination with more than 50% of the vote. Dean and Clark look to be splitting a big piece of the pie, but will either even land 40%? Doubtful. And, at the end of the day (how I loathe that phrase) the voter will have to say, "Hey, just why AM I voting for this guy?!"

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« Reply #40 on: December 19, 2003, 06:47:14 PM »
McCain???????

He's a brand of chips where I come from.

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« Reply #41 on: December 19, 2003, 07:27:51 PM »
Clark is a pretty boy who was petted way too often by the demos, and will end his career as a failed demo nominee....

Too top this all off, he is a POS wannabe
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« Reply #42 on: December 19, 2003, 10:05:27 PM »
This prepositioning of the excuse that "the Republicans made the Democrats choose Dean" is really funny.

Let's just see how the primaries run out; I don't think it'll be close between Dean and Clark simply because the radical part of the Democratic party will pitch a hissy fit over a General.

It won't be "crossover" Republicans sneaking into the primaries that keeps Clark out. It'll be the extreme left of the Democratic party.

That's my thought. And as I said, I think the Dems have their best shot with Clark.
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« Reply #43 on: December 20, 2003, 12:03:11 AM »
Well Mr. 10 bears....if you took the time to READ my original post....

"I dont usually get into debates like this but I thank GOD every day that Clark is no longer in the military....I (my opinion only) hope that he NEVER gains a political office. God help us"

I mentioned nothing of a presidential debate now did I.

Second...I answered your question about being a Slobo supporter...I am not...

Third....can you qualify this statement you made?

"Wining a war in Europe without losing a single solider in combat ought to mean something."

You also stated....

"While spending countless hours getting shot at, were any of your American G.I. buddies killed in action?.. "

My answer is yes....and some of my Non American GI buddies were also killed in action.