Author Topic: Please, for the love of GOD! (Read 7892 times)

dedalos · « **Reply #15 on:** December 22, 2003, 11:50:39 AM »

I vote for better defence. Put some manable guns around them that don't die with a single 303 ping and increase the ack at the bases and cvs. This way, you can still use bombers the normal way, but if you try diving into the field without first de-acking your chances of killing anything before getting killed are smaller. Also, this could make dive bombers release their bombs at a higher alt like in real life and not at 1K with no chance of survival

Mini D · « **Reply #16 on:** December 22, 2003, 12:09:48 PM »

Sure thing toad. Of course, "it can be done" translates to "it's done all the time" by you. It's really getting old toad. I wonder how the hell "suicide fuel porker" ever became a nomicker given they make several passes before dieing?

Personally, I don't care for the idea that suiciding an object is so productive in AH. It really is the crux of the problem. No ammount of whining is going to change that. Make the suicide impacting in some manner (not score... by default suiciding means someone doesn't really care about it) and it will go away.

Until then, accept that doing nothing will result in something happening that you may not like. I'd believe your statement about people wanting to fight more than defend a base if I didn't consistantly see you hiding in ack waiting for people to show up anyways. Just do it a bit higher.

MiniD

Toad · « **Reply #17 on:** December 22, 2003, 12:24:50 PM »

Sure thing Mini. It can be done means...... it can be done. Is that confusing?

It can be done means that just about anytime a reasonably competent player chooses to do that..... it can be done. Still confusing?

Suicide Fuel Porkers is usually found as a plural; I've always thought they were referring to the waves of jabos that come in and just dive into the target. That's certainly not an uncommon behavior. I saw it last squad nite. We were operating off a CV fighting another CV. Our CV was sunk by F4U's that came over high and just dove into the deck. No finesse, no attempt to live through it. The game allows it. Doesn't mean it's good for gameplay or fun for anyone but the diver (I guess). Same thing happes to fuel at bases. A wave arrives and dives.

But, that's not what you and I discussed is it? I believe you made the case it was simply impossible to get the fuel in two passes. Now I think you realize you were simply wrong.

Does it happen all the time? I don't know. I know this: it can happen anytime a reasonably competent player chooses to do it.

LOL, you see me hiding in ack? You're having visions then.

I'm sure I've been described many ways I doubt "ack hugger" is how anyone thinks of me.

"waiting for people to show up"

Pretty clear you have no idea how and where to find me in the MA

That's too funny! Do another one!

Zippatuh · « **Reply #18 on:** December 22, 2003, 12:38:54 PM »

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Originally posted by simshell
i think you furballers are asking to much:rofl

i dont see anything wrong with making more fuel bunkers on bases

but 4k come on a bomber would almost dump its hole load on 1 fuel bunker

Cost/benefit… it cost you nothing to fly for a day to get altitude and line up on fuel then get rewarded by shutting the base down for 1+X amount of people. Not enough cost and too much benefit. Perk all bombers 500 points. Perk all bombs 500 points. You die and it will cost, say what, 7500 perks and up depending on the bomb load out. I’m ok with this setup for current game play. By the time most fluffers get the needed 10K or so perk points to fly one mission they’ll of given up on it anyhow.

Zippatuh · « **Reply #19 on:** December 22, 2003, 12:39:41 PM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
I agree, but it has to be said that a diving kamikaze fuel porker is a difficult target to intercept once he's made it to the field to be porked...

You have to be alive X seconds after you drop, otherwise it’s a dud.

LePaul · « **Reply #20 on:** December 22, 2003, 12:44:44 PM »

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Originally posted by Zippatuh
Cost/benefit… it cost you nothing to fly for a day to get altitude and line up on fuel then get rewarded by shutting the base down for 1+X amount of people. Not enough cost and too much benefit. Perk all bombers 500 points. Perk all bombs 500 points. You die and it will cost, say what, 7500 perks and up depending on the bomb load out. I’m ok with this setup for current game play. By the time most fluffers get the needed 10K or so perk points to fly one mission they’ll of given up on it anyhow.

Here speaks the Buff Anti Christ

With attitudes like yours, its a real pleasure you allow me and my bombers to fly. Gee, let's bow in your greatness.

Kegger26 · « **Reply #21 on:** December 22, 2003, 12:46:25 PM »

My squad hits the fuel supply of some feilds in advance of a major attack that will take place, we arnt dweebs about it, we fly P51B's and D's loaded with bombs and rockets, we make one pass on a feilds fuel supply, then we climb back up and fly to the next feild, we hit three or four emny feilds fuel in one swift sweep. We do this to help cap and area. We have a goal in mind, normaly we team up another squad to cap a feild.
After we kill the fuel and if we can, we fly back to our home base. By this time the other squad should be working on the FHs on one or two of the feilds, once we touch down, we up some C47s and start running troops to the porked bases. We fly in unopposed. That is why we pork the fuel at the bases surrounding the target emy base. This is why rooks will take one base after another... what is refered to as the rook roll. There is a reasion the fuel can be knocked out. We use it.
Dont like it? Well here is what you can do to counter our advance. The first thing you need is good SA, you need to see the attack coming, so that you can take the correct steps needed to quail the attack. Once you see fuel getting hit, and the planes moving on to the next base, up from a feild behind the next base that is about to be hit, if you take up a 190, or 109, or spit 9/14 you should be able to climb up and meet us over the next target feild. This will allow you to fight us, get over us, wait till we are low and slow climbing up from our attack, and nail us.
You should also have a group of fighters otw to the first base we hit. Dont get into a massive furball with the fighters, but keep the alt advantage over the emy fighters. This will spoke most goon drivers, I can tell you this wont work for me squad, we will fly a goon into just about anywhere. So you might need to come down and kill us.... or try to anyways

This game is about action and reaction. We do somthing you should make the correct reaction. Dweebs are going to be dweebs, and you could put up enough AA to make a plane disapear faster than a pizza at a weight watchers meeting, but you would be ruining the game, and its core game play. Action, and reaction. Just some thoughts.
Keg

Toad · « **Reply #22 on:** December 22, 2003, 01:11:37 PM »

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Originally posted by Kegger26
We fly in unopposed. That is why we pork the fuel at the bases surrounding the target emy base.

That's it in a nutshell. Some come to AH looking for a fight and some don't.

I'm not sure that difference in interest can be resolved.

Furious · « **Reply #23 on:** December 22, 2003, 01:12:03 PM »

Yes, the core goal of AH is to not have to fight other players.

Elfie · « **Reply #24 on:** December 22, 2003, 01:23:02 PM »

Rook roll?? funny, I play for Rooks and never heard that term before.

Funny how your squad porks fuel to take bases. It's not even necessary to pork the fuel to take a base. Unless your squad is resupplying those bases after you capture them, you are only giving your team useless bases.

If the objective is to take bases unopposed then porking the fuel makes perfect sense. However if thats the case....why even play in an online environment where player vs player combat is intended and encouraged?

SlapShot · « **Reply #25 on:** December 22, 2003, 01:24:42 PM »

Whats a "nomicker" ?

Toad · « **Reply #26 on:** December 22, 2003, 01:32:45 PM »

It's an old term for a person that won't hire an Irishman. Was prevalent in Boston a long time ago.

guttboy · « **Reply #27 on:** December 22, 2003, 01:33:58 PM »

KEGGER!!!!!!!!!

AMEN.....

Guys live with the game....does it piss me off that I cant fly from a field with 25% gas....YES!!!!!!

Do I deal with it YES!!!!!!!!

GET A RESUPPLY GOON!

Guys this is a DYNAMIC game....just like in WW2....if you want your fields protected put up some cap.

Again Kegger I couldnt have said it better.

'Nuf said

Zippatuh · « **Reply #28 on:** December 22, 2003, 01:40:04 PM »

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Originally posted by LePaul
Here speaks the Buff Anti Christ

With attitudes like yours, its a real pleasure you allow me and my bombers to fly. Gee, let's bow in your greatness.

Ok ok, JU88’s can be priced at 250. Better?

As for allowing you to fly, drop me an email and I’ll let you and your buddies know where they can send the check. And the greatness, I knew there was a reason why I seem to be walking a little taller today.

I thought it was the platform shoes Sax makes me wear. He has this funny idea that getting looked at strange during the day is going to get me to give up my altitude at game time. Yeah, like comfortable shoes are going to get me out of the clouds.

Virage · « **Reply #29 on:** December 22, 2003, 01:41:13 PM »

Don't want to defend? Take out Ammo.

fly to nmy base.. take out ord (should be easy right)... then spend the rest of the time vulching or attacking guys taking off.