Author Topic: a guide for what ah2 sky and terrain should look like (Read 1637 times)

TweetyBird · « **Reply #30 on:** December 28, 2003, 03:48:14 PM »

>>I wasn't aware that war was supposed to be *bright* and *happy*. War is hell, period. Maybe you would be happier playing a Teletubbies game? <<

They're still working on the fm. As soon as they get the belly telivisions sets working, I'm gone

FYI, what makes war hell has nothing to do what you see in a video game. I think it would be safer copmparing it to paintball.

Kweassa · « **Reply #31 on:** December 28, 2003, 04:16:46 PM »

True. Nature doesn't give a shi* about wars, no matter how destructive. I've seen color phots of Korean war, where a battle was taking place in early spring, and it was taken from above in a recon plane or something.

The fighting people were dreery, the background, was not. When we think of a battle field in the dramatical sense, we always assume that it should be grey, dull, dark and dreery.

Seeing people fight and die in a field of bright green, with beautiful patches of snow, lovely hills and blue sky of spring.. was really inspiring, and awkward.

Kweassa · « **Reply #32 on:** December 28, 2003, 09:54:27 PM »

Here's my take on the color schemes, with the follwing settings:

ColorDuskFog[day]: 255/149/88
ColorDuskFog[dusk]: 255/138/36

ColorFog[day]: 179/208/238
ColorFog[dusk]: 131/142/187
ColorFog[night]: 21/20/16

ColorLight[day]: 255/255/255
ColorLight[dusk]: 249/202/142
ColorLight[night]: 181/180/173

ColorSky[day]: 149/195/255
ColorSky[dusk]: 111/123/196

ColorSun[day]: 250/255/245
ColorSun[dusk]: 253/240/185

Default skies, in the middle of the day

Trial flight of a G-10 in the new sky, same time of day as above pic

Fw190A-5 trial flight; 3rd and 4th pics are evening skies

Fw190D-9 trial flight

P-51D trial flight

Bonus pic: "Combat in the New Skies"

Citabria · « **Reply #33 on:** December 29, 2003, 02:52:30 AM »

kweassa thats perfect!!!!!!!

nopoop · « **Reply #34 on:** December 29, 2003, 11:17:02 AM »

I agree !! That's not dreary, that's beautiful !!

My only concern would be moving the fog out to 17 miles from the original 10 as an arena setting. Frame hits on my dinasaur may be prohibitive.

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Tilt · « **Reply #35 on:** December 29, 2003, 05:08:56 PM »

Kweassa

very nice

Could you take a screen shot of your clip board with those arena settings showing?

JustJim · « **Reply #36 on:** December 29, 2003, 05:21:46 PM »

Gotta admit that does look great, my question is what kind of frames do you get and will that put a bit hit on others comps or make it better ?

Kweassa · « **Reply #37 on:** December 29, 2003, 05:32:58 PM »

Sure Tilt, but what settings do you want the pic to show?

Justjim, this, is just a 'color correction' - no hit on frame rates whatsoever. However, the "17 mile visibility", that, takes a bit of a hit in the frame rate. But strangely though, I don't feel the frame rate hit when I'm viewing the terrain, only when I approach another frdly plane.

Kweassa · « **Reply #38 on:** December 29, 2003, 06:30:26 PM »

Okay, here goes:

Arena settings are as described in the previous post. Using 17 miles of visibility and bump mapping turned off.

Note for disbelievers: first pic, is original AH2 screen shot with size correction to fit forum(1600x1200 -> 600x450). Pictures from the second pic and on, are using 0.7 pixel gausian blur to 'trim' the rough edges, and same size correction. No other 'photoshoppin' at all.

19,000 feet

Lower altitudes

Cockpit view

Miscellaneous externals

Citabria · « **Reply #39 on:** December 29, 2003, 06:37:44 PM »

the sky looks good but the ground textures are still just way to dark.

it gets really bad at sunrise sunset. everything gets even darker!

nopoop · « **Reply #40 on:** December 29, 2003, 07:17:30 PM »

I like the colors much better than the arena settings, problem is you lose the settings if you go online.

Gotta get at that olive drab terrain tho..

Looks good, hopefully Dale will make some color adjustments along these examples.

Replicant · « **Reply #41 on:** December 29, 2003, 07:21:48 PM »

Good post Fester!

I agree that the ground textures look far too dark in AH2. I think that the terrain in IL2FB and WWIIOL have got it just about right.

Also the first pictures you posted of English landscapes look more like early spring landscapes so everything is really lush green. High/late summer then the greens will be fading slightly but the darker yellows (corn) will be more evident. (The yellow in those pics are 'rape crops'.)

Here's a few pics of the former Debden airfield viewed from different magnifications. No particular reason for Debden but just to give a depth of scale to the countryside. Also note that Debden now has agricultural crops on the airfield, this actually is rather relevent since this sort of camoflage would have been attempted in WW2 to disguise airfields.

England generally looks like this late spring/early summer. Quite often people call it patchwork fields!

Spot Debden!

A littler closer

....and closer

......anyway to model detail from high to lower alts?

Replicant · « **Reply #42 on:** December 29, 2003, 08:05:59 PM »

A few more British countryside pics....

Hazy view

Lush...

July WW2?

Kweassa · « **Reply #43 on:** January 06, 2004, 10:45:08 PM »

*punt*

Reschke · « **Reply #44 on:** January 06, 2004, 11:16:16 PM »

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Originally posted by Replicant

July WW2?

Probably sometime between June and August of 1943. The red around the national insignia was used in that time frame.