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« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2004, 10:27:22 AM »
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« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2004, 12:30:59 PM »
Good links.  And, of course ... there's the Stepford Wives.
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« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2004, 12:33:00 PM »
I would like a prehensile robotic wiener.

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« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2004, 02:19:14 PM »
we've made enough movies and books about this that even if we ever do make AI we will have put in subroutines that stop that sort of thing...

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« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2004, 02:40:58 PM »
Yes, it's almost as if we need some sort of...  three laws of...  oh, let's say robotics.

Oh yeah, Isaac Asimov was there decades ago:

1.  A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.

2.  A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

3.  A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

I suggest an additional law:

4.  Under no circumstances shall any AI or machine forcefully place humans into cocoons to generate electricity.
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« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2004, 06:14:02 PM »
"Eat Hot Rail Gun death andriod scum"!!!!!
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« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2004, 06:44:43 PM »
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vorticon: we've made enough movies and books about this that even if we ever do make AI we will have put in subroutines that stop that sort of thing... [/unquote)

However, (eerie music crescendo) ... someday ... an android ... will figure out how to remove any limitations imposed by humans .... (shattering crashes of cymbals)
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« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2004, 07:01:03 PM »
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However, (eerie music crescendo) ... someday ... an android ... will figure out how to remove any limitations imposed by humans .... (shattering crashes of cymbals)


:D

Was thinking the same thing.
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« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2004, 07:59:03 PM »
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If android chicks are good looking, I'm there.


Not an android exactly...but would this do?


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« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2004, 08:58:17 PM »
It actually sounds like a bad idea, Halo.  I saw a documentary on this once, and the sad fact is.... robots can never--ever--love.:(






















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« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2004, 12:14:11 PM »
Yeah, Hawker, from what I read, robots can't have any emotions, including love.  That's why they don't do well in the usual main movie plot (human guy has fine life, then falls {great verb here} in love, then gets killed one way or another because he fell in love).

So sooner or later we get into creation mode -- were humans divinely created or just randomly or logically evolved?  

Androids will have a tough time answering that question.  Or will they bother with it?  

Hmmm, will androids value emotions at all except as a technique of interacting or empathizing with humans?  

Will androids be better or worse for supposedly lacking emotions?

Will androids, assuming supreme logic, eventually conclude they would be better having emotions and thus evolve them?

Tough to imagine what could happen in the next thousand years or so, isn't it.
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« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2004, 12:24:26 PM »
Actually Halo, I was just being asinine about that horrible movie, AI.

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« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2004, 01:10:31 PM »
are you kidding? love is just neurons flashing one way. An interpretation in your mind's eye.
silicon flashes one way or another too, and you are left with the binary: either love/emotion is an true as to its "etheral" nature, or it's simply just as the second case appears, an illusion, chemistry.

btw 7of9 is as sexy as a fridge.
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« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2004, 01:18:27 PM »
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btw 7of9 is as sexy as a fridge.



better looking than the rest of the crew...

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« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2004, 01:23:11 PM »
kind of like the last place to miss world preliminaries is always better than a snail.
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