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Offline Roscoroo

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« on: December 29, 2003, 12:53:03 PM »
ECS  N2U400-A opinions wanted
I'm thinking about replacing one of my K7S5A MB's with a N2U400-A

What i want is a pro's- cons about this MB .. major errors ,flaws ,bios problems, ocing, ect ..

I planning to use this as my offical AH2 machine

set up with what I've already have ...
2500+ Amd   (on water )
duel 256 or 512 ddr ( brand recommendation's wanted ,problems ect )
ATI 9600 pro (in the box awaiting an 8x mb )
133 ide HD
430 antec ps
win 98 se

I'm looking at this mb or i will go build another Asus A7N8X Dlx
 my K7S5A machine has been very stable and reliable and i like the nforce chipset's so ... what ya all think ???

I'm sort of on a budget here and i dont need the bell's and whistles that are on the Asus mb


heres the mb spec's link

and yes i know its only a 20$ diff between the plain jane asus and the ECS mb ...  its kind of a great luck ECS thing ive got going
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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2003, 01:30:06 PM »
Roscoroo,

I just put together my first AMD machine using a 2500+ and the Asus A7N8X Deluxe MB and I love it but who can argue with luck. If you have this thing going with ECS you should go with it.

As for memory, I used twin 256 Corsair XMS C2 and that Asus boot voice kept giving me post memory errors. I did memtest86 runs  and got a truckload of errors. Newegg gave me a no problem return/refund and when I went to order more actually suggested I try Kingston HyperX which this guy said has been returned far less often than the Corsair XMS. Just one guys opinion for what it's worth. The Kingston has given me no problems running the  2500+ from 166/11 to 200/11.

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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2003, 01:42:27 PM »
ive built 3 Asus A7N8X    mb machines so far for others and i really like them alot ... besides having that one sound driver glitch in the original drivers they are great machines and I havent had any complaints yet ..

the ECS mb im looking at doesnt seam to have a core volt adj. so I'm not shure yet but i can always run a OC program if needed , i wasnt really planning on ocing to much if at any
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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2003, 04:58:36 PM »
Yea. I overclocked the Barton 2500+ up to 200/11 and it went so easy and ran so stable that it's hard not to overclock this processor. However, I decided it runs fast enough at stock speed for now and set the FSB back to 166 where it runs just a tad cooler. This combo has made me an AMD fan.

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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2003, 06:36:46 PM »
If you can live without the 1-5% Dual Channel performance boost, look at the Asus A7N8X-X.  It's identical to the A7N8X (non-deluxe) in feature set (LAN, 6 channel Realtek sound), but uses the nForce 2 400 (not nForce 2 400 Ultra) chipset.  Dual Channel memory mode really doesn't make much difference for an office/basic gaming rig.

On the ECS board, you never know.  I've never personally used one for a system, but some systems I've messed with have and they don't seem too bad for a budget board.  (ECS actually manufactures all of Abit's boards for them.)

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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2003, 07:23:37 PM »
(I'm assuming the picture of the ECS board on their website is accurate.)

The first thing that strikes me on that ECS board is the very low number of capacitors for power filtering.  The power supply on the board for the CPU also appears to be only 2 phase with inadequate (as far as I can tell from the picture) filtering.  What does this mean?  It means that if you have a power supply that has a significant amount of ripple on its outputs, your system may crash under heavy load.  The CPU power mosfets are also going to run very hot with only 2 of them.

Take a look at the Asus "budget" A7N8X-X and the ECS board:

Asus A7N8X-X
http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socketa/a7n8x-x/overview.htm#


ECS
http://www.ecsusa.com/products/n2u400a.html

Just look at how empty the ECS board looks.

Some other minor things I'm seeing:

1.  The AGP slot is too close to the memory sockets.  You probably can't change memory without removing the video card.

2.  The floppy connector is in a terrible spot.

3.  Onboard LAN is optional AND uses a VIA chipset solution.  The nVidia onboard Lan has very low CPU usage, unlike the VIA solution.  Since LAN is optional, be sure you are comparing prices to the ECS board with onboard LAN.

4.  No provision on the ECS board for a second serial port.  The Asus board has a header (and you can get the card for about $5 or less at most computer stores to add the second serial port, as the -X doesn't come with the card.  The standard board does.)

The ECS board does have an Spdif out header, so you could link to a home receiver if you could find an Spdif card to plug into the header.

The ECS board at least takes advantage of the ATX 12+ (4 pin) connector.  It probably only uses it to power the fans plugged into the motherboard though.  Unfortunately this connector is too close to the CPU socket, and on the wrong side.

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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2003, 08:44:58 PM »
the Ecs mb is only a few months old (oct i think ) ... so i probely will go with the trusty Asus A7N8X dlx   since i already know what i getting with that .. and i dont like the fact that the ecs mb doesnt have core volt adjustments ...

there isnt much about that ecs mb yet on any of the forums .
 it is kind of a mixed chipset aint it ?
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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2004, 09:33:54 PM »
Hey Roscoroo,

Another Nvidia chipset board that gets a lot of positive reviews is the MSI K7N2 Delta-L. At under $75 it looks like a real bargain.