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Offline JOACH1M

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Re: TA-152 Help.
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2013, 12:59:07 AM »
The 152 will be a waste of your time.

Unless you are just going to pick and shoot bombers...
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Offline Babalonian

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Re: TA-152 Help.
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2013, 02:57:36 PM »
I would sometimes take the 152 out furballing. Loved the extra 30mm ammo. For the view issue, you'll never ever have good luck shooting nose low targets.

Best I can tell you is to try to set up crossing shots so they're flying down from your perspective when dealing with escorts, and come at the buffs from high 12, so the aim point is above your nose in both cases.

I've never had a bigger or lesser problem with leading nose low targets for a 30mm shot in a 152 than any other low-velocity tater-chucking equiped ac.  All take a great deal of leading the target (sometimes so much that even if the cockpit were translucent your knees wouldn't be for a clear picture) or closing to near 0 range.

Utilising the 152s good roll rate though to settup a crossing shot so that they pass you from up to down is a great trick up its sleeve (especialy combined with high speed slashing attacks against big, bulky, unmaneuverable targets like the heavy bombers), but against an experienced stick it can give away what you're about to do (with a good second or two for them to react and if their aircraft is capable of maneuvering to evade, even lowering their profile/target area for you to hit with a 90-degree roll in that last 1 to 1/2 second can be effective enough).

With the recent super-raid on the rook strats by the bishies, I found out what I had been doing wrong.

It turns out if you pull up too fast, you kinda go into a wicked tailspin and stall out. I finally got the slashing attacks down on bombers and ended up with a whole formation in one run until some dork had to put a .50 cal right in my 30mm tater slinger. The only issue I have left is to work around the front end visibility problem.

Also, one last thing, is moot still around on the boards? I'd like to ask him a few things in a PM.

Send the PM anyway, it's worked for me.  He comes and goes with being busy elsewhere I believe, but I suspect he gets email notifications when he does get a new PM.
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Offline mthrockmor

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Re: TA-152 Help.
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2013, 03:29:59 PM »
I've killed a few Ta-152s by getting them to stall. The stall is just as wicked as you say, and once they go tail first it is over.

The 190 series was designed to fight from the top, down. It is all about speed, hit hard and get out of the fight. The roll rate was very intentional. Trying to fight the 190 as you would a Spit is fun but don't get discouraged when it doesn't end well. I've been flying the 190A5 for several months now and finally have the hang of it with a decent K/d above 2 but still ultimately lose at some point on the deck.

One note about high alt buffs. The ideal envelope is to dive from above. This gets tricky as the Ta-152 can compress stall amazingly quick at those high alt speeds. Another tactic is to start a couple K above them, dive down at high speed until you are perfectly level with the buffs then slash across them horizontally. With practice you can kill almost as easy, though not quite as much trigger time on target as a verticle attack.
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