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Offline Saurdaukar

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« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2004, 01:45:33 PM »
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Plus if you drive em in a lake they float. Do you have flowers on yours the way Herpes the Love Bug did?



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« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2004, 02:04:38 PM »
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"Name is all that matters."  Mini... read my post again.  You are the one that made the name recognition argument - not me - and Ive addressed it.
It was me?

"In fact the GT40 appears to have all bases covered... but at the end of the day, it lacks that one, special thing. A Ferrari badge."

"Plenty of Civics in my area faster than my 911 too. NAAWWWWAAAASSSS, 25 lbs of boost, and shorter gears... but its still a Civic."

Tell me once again how I brought name recognition up as an issue Saur?
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My comment about the Ferrari badge is half taken as a joke, but if youre that bored at the office that you need to nitpick the motivation for statements, then more power to you - I only hope I can continue to serve to make your life that much more fufilling than it already is.
My reply to it was pretty much a joke too saur.  You're the one that proceded to use the porsche vs ricer analogy.  I guess the joke just needed a little less joke added to it.
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In any event MiniD, keeping in mind such profound statements as those quoted above regarding seats, dashboards, and hood badges, exactly what knowledge base are you pulling all of this informaiton from?  The road?  The track?  Or Road & Track?  
Pulling information from magazines?  No, I find magazines unreliable for anything other than numbers.  I've been pricing 911's for about 10 years now.  I could never bring myself to buy one because they are always what I refer to as a 5 yard car.  15 feet away and they look great.  You get closer they look less great.  You sit inside and you've made up your mind.  They have a timeless style, but their interior doesn't hold up for crap.  That's just based on the 50 odd ones I've looked at.  And the impression I have from them.
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I only ask because I find your comments overshadowed in humor only by the fact that you stand by them as if they were written by one of the Apostles.
I'm sorry, I have an oppinion on a car.  I'm not trying to say that a badge gives it "something intangeable".  Really... who's treating this like a religion saur?

You like porsches because you have experience with them.  You like ferraris because you've driven them.  But you haven't driven a GT40, yet you procede to describe what it doesn't have?  All you've seen are numbers... and they pretty much sum up why someone would have to go to the "intangeable" card.

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« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2004, 03:04:54 PM »
Do you guys ever get over yourselves?

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« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2004, 03:05:22 PM »
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It was me?


Yes it was.  We've already gone over your lack of understanding here, Mini.

When I say that the Ford lacks something special - a "Ferrari badge" I dont mean it literally, although this is, of course, true.

What I mean is that the badge, although it is only a piece of metal, is like the heart of the car - the soul - that special something that cant be duplicated elsewhere.

I dont envy your 'ability' to look beyond the passion of things, but it would explain your inability to understand anything beyond face value.

With a Ferrari badge comes an aweful lot - and 90% of it doesnt show up on a page of numbers.


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Tell me once again how I brought name recognition up as an issue Saur?My reply to it was pretty much a joke too saur.  You're the one that proceded to use the porsche vs ricer analogy.  I guess the joke just needed a little less joke added to it.


Here Mini:

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"Just because it outperforms my car doesn't mean it's better."  I've heard that before, but it's usually from the other arian car zealot group.

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Pulling information from magazines?  No, I find magazines unreliable for anything other than numbers.  I've been pricing 911's for about 10 years now.  I could never bring myself to buy one because they are always what I refer to as a 5 yard car.  15 feet away and they look great.  You get closer they look less great.  You sit inside and you've made up your mind.  They have a timeless style, but their interior doesn't hold up for crap.  That's just based on the 50 odd ones I've looked at.  And the impression I have from them. I'm sorry, I have an oppinion on a car.  I'm not trying to say that a badge gives it "something intangeable".  Really... who's treating this like a religion saur?


You must have looked at some real ****ty examples, Mini.  Ive probably been in a similar number of cars - ranging from the first few years of production to an 02 Turbo, and sure Ive seen some poor condition cars, but they arent the type I would be considering purchasing anyway.

Since I have yet to hit the lottery, my ownership experience equated to the lte 80's cars.

Both were used almost daily and had their odometers ran up well past 100,000 miles.

If any car is abused, it will look like **** - but if it is loved and maintained by someone like me, as opposed to someone like you, in 15 years it will retain 95% of its beauty, condition, and soundness in all aspects.

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You like porsches because you have experience with them.  You like ferraris because you've driven them.  But you haven't driven a GT40, yet you procede to describe what it doesn't have?  All you've seen are numbers... and they pretty much sum up why someone would have to go to the "intangeable" card.


So now you are claiming that your own fault - not being able to understand the passion associated with owning a car and thinking of it as something slightly more than a people mover - is a product of my own failings?

Get real, Mini, youre really stretching now - as if drag heavy hood badges wasnt reaching enough.  :rolleyes:

This argument isnt going anywhere - youre like the hardcore Liberal everyone had in that college Mid East 101 class ranting about imperialism and the evils of the American government.

You talk an aweful lot, but you dont say anything - and after hearing the same song and dance time after time, it gets old.

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« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2004, 03:15:36 PM »
what Furball said.

I walked around a dealership last weekend, and looked thru some trade-ins, and saw the interior of a corvette for the first time close up, and it looked like the usual american ergos, real cheap and ugly compared to german stuff.
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« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2004, 03:16:02 PM »
For the money give me a 911
Less money better every day driver.
And there great in the snow.

The GT40 looks cool as watermelon and I take my hat of to Ford.
And of coures Ferrari well the prancing horse speaks for it's self.

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« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2004, 03:26:29 PM »
Ford gonna run it at Sebring?  Ferrari will be there.  Would be interesting to see who finishes 3rd after the two Corvettes. :p

I think I read somewhere that recent windtunnel testing of the original GT40 showed that the front had a tendency to lift at very high speeds, which really impressed me since Gurney ran it so quick on the backstretch at LeMans.  :eek:

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« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2004, 03:30:09 PM »
I can say Skyline ;)

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« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2004, 03:33:04 PM »
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I can say Skyline ;)


Hehe, a PS2 with four wheels.  ;)

If youre gonna go Jap, Id have to agree with storch - the Wankel is where its at.

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« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2004, 03:34:31 PM »
lol... every look into what you can do with a skyline? :)

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« Reply #40 on: January 05, 2004, 03:41:26 PM »
LOL! OK saur, it's my misunderstand you writing 3 more paragraphs on how it really is the badge that makes the difference.  Feel free to pretend that isn't elitism.  Citing which will be better based on a badge without actually seeing or knowing that much about the competition... that's... um... oh yea... something you just can't put into words (because it doesn't sound good when you do).

Moot, I couldn't agree more.  They are even worse than the porsches.  But neither hold up well.

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« Reply #41 on: January 05, 2004, 03:53:22 PM »
imo if you look at the whole of a design, especially pure sports cars that are supposed to breathe passion, you understand the philosophy of its approach to the given problem, and which one pleases a certain person will depend on the person's taste, which isn't debateable.

if I was given the means, I'd choose a ferrari that needs to be in the shop 75% of the time and would have those tacky european glitches, over a GT40 or 911, just for the feel of that harmonious design, in itself and with your taste.

Kind of like a supermodel that always brakes stuff around the house.
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« Reply #42 on: January 05, 2004, 04:24:25 PM »
Mini, if I were religious, I'd pray for you. ;)

I cant imagine you ever being happy with anything in life, so if questioning gives you purpose, I hope you find some solice in it.

Some get it, others dont.  No hard feelings, you just fit into the latter category, thats all.

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« Reply #43 on: January 05, 2004, 04:37:14 PM »
Saur, do you have one of those really long whip CB antannas on that puppy? That just sets the look off, IMHO. I'm looking in the Automotive classifieds and if I can find one for under 2500 I'll buy it.

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« Reply #44 on: January 05, 2004, 05:15:56 PM »
I'd race any one of them.....

As long as I get to pick the road.

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