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Offline Gunslinger

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« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2004, 10:40:32 AM »
I see the point GS is trying to make but I dont think its atainable.  I guess what he's trying to say is that if arab populations in general no longer tolerate extremists muslims they would have very little logistical support.  Yes this would hurt them but again I reallly dont think that is achievable in the arab world.  Most arab populations are dirt poor.  They are one of the oldest races yet most of them have so little.  Extremests point there finger at the USA and the poor hard working worn out family man says...."aaahhh so that's why I work my ars off for nothing"  

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« Reply #31 on: January 09, 2004, 11:19:36 AM »
32.  Are you going to ask for a noodle-length measurement next?  If so, I already concede defeat to your superior machismo.

Of course I use gas, Rip.  Where we differ is that, given a choice, I'd rather pay more per gallon in U.S. dollars and less (preferably none) in WTC victim's blood.  That, to me, is the unacceptable cost of our government’s avoidance of confrontation with Saudi Arabia regarding their involvement with 9/11.

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« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2004, 12:58:15 PM »
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What do you think these fundamentalists do with all the money?


Arabs, the Royal Family in particular,  like tall blond white women.

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« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2004, 01:05:51 PM »
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Arabs, the Royal Family in particular,  like tall blond white women.


Yes, there have been numerous books and articles confirming this.  I can't access any here at work because my employer has adult website blocking enabled, but Dan The Man down at the bookstore behind the airport has several publications verifying the Arabian taste in women.

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« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2004, 01:06:36 PM »
Gscholz, Let me ask you a question. You quoted OBL as saying if the “infidel armies leaves the land of Mohammed”. I assume he means the US in this passage and “enjoy security before we can see it as a reality in Palestine” this statement seems a bit ambiguous to me but I’ll run with it.

Let say that the US military is removed as asked and the Jews are relocated to another part of the world. I’m using this as an example because I’m not sure what outcome he is looking for in Palestine from his above statement.

Do you believe that OBL and his leadership would be satisfied at this point,”lay down their arms” or would there be a next logical step?

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« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2004, 01:46:24 PM »
I keep confusing gsholz with blitz.

what name does blitz go by these days anyway
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« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2004, 01:50:47 PM »
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32.  Are you going to ask for a noodle-length measurement next?  If so, I already concede defeat to your superior machismo.

Of course I use gas, Rip.  Where we differ is that, given a choice, I'd rather pay more per gallon in U.S. dollars and less (preferably none) in WTC victim's blood.  That, to me, is the unacceptable cost of our government’s avoidance of confrontation with Saudi Arabia regarding their involvement with 9/11.


How is "willing to pay more for gas" have anything to do with WTC victims blood?  If we completely boycotted foreign oil, particularly SA oil, how long would this country survive? a week? two?  Now, I agree we should have had more intel within the Saudi family prior to 9/11, dare I say the Clinton era?  An ounce of prevention....

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« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2004, 01:52:26 PM »
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32.  Are you going to ask for a noodle-length measurement next?  If so, I already concede defeat to your superior machismo.

 


Of course you would concede, I don't use chemicals to physically enhance my performance when I lift.  That stuff shrinks your gonads, dude.

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« Reply #38 on: January 09, 2004, 02:44:23 PM »
GSholz,
If I recall correctly, OBL doesn't care for or about Palestine one bit.

It is, however, a convienent rallying call for him to use.

I do think if we were to leave the region alone, assuming we could get oil elsewhere, it would consume itself.  And I'm not taking about Arabs vs. Israeli's.  I'm talking Arab vs. Arab.

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« Reply #39 on: January 09, 2004, 06:17:23 PM »
Gsholz,
I know where we get most of our oil.  And I know who does get most of their oil from that region.

But as you said, OPEC does tend to influence the world market.

We'd be better served to "befriend" Venezuela, etc.


And you also have to admit, OBL doesn't really care about the Palestinians.

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« Reply #40 on: January 09, 2004, 06:47:18 PM »
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I don't know what the man thinks of the Palestinians, but I know one thing for sure; he has no love for Israel.  


Your brighter than a 10w light-bulb.
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« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2004, 07:05:34 PM »
you know.....I actually used to think gsholz was a 10w lightbulb but his latest presentation has me thinking he might be able to achieve 40watts in a pinch.

My only question for gsholz would be: If you absolutely "had to choose sides" in the upcoming global war, whos side would it be?

The side of almighty God or the side of God almighty?

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« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2004, 07:52:46 PM »
I'll make it easy for you, Rip.  We give a lot of money to Saudi Arabia in return for oil, a lot of that money winds up going to Saudi Arabia's government-run charities, the government-run charities in turn give much of that money to terrorist groups, and finally the terrorist groups use that money to buy weapons and train operatives that fly planes into our buildings and kill our citizens.  Thus, a portion of every American dollar spent on Saudi oil winds up in a terrorist's hands and is used to kill our people. That is the hidden cost that we pay for cheap petroleum goods.  

Screw that.  At some point we have to take Saudi Arabia to task and make them clean up their house, or stop supporting them altogether so that they no longer have the wealth to fund terrorism.  If that entails doing without their oil altogether forever and ever, then so be it.  We’d feel a pinch, of course, as would the Saudis.  But we would not be shut down in 2 years.  We would adapt and be better off in the long run since we had stopped being a primary source of funding for the country that serves as the primary source of funding for those that would see our destruction.

That is my no bull****, no politics opinion.  You will have to forgive me if I fail to see the "tactical brilliance" of wiping the Saudi slate clean, turning a blind eye to their support of terrorism and continuing to give them money that will eventually be used to kill Americans.

P.S. Your concern for my gonads is appreciated, if disconcerting.

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« Reply #43 on: January 09, 2004, 08:15:42 PM »
"Well talk is cheap and I am convinced that the people that want to hurt my country have no desire what so ever to talk to us and find out what's really bothering them."

True, we can't hold a town meeting and explain ourselves. It's easy for the religious fanatics to hold sway over the uneducated and impoverished minds that become the cannon fodder for terrorism.  We're there and we're gonna be there for a long time. I believe being there is a tactical decision no matter how it's portrayed, but I don't disagree with it either. Only in another 20 years will we know if we are right or wrong. Nothing will change over there until the social system changes so that young men and women in the middle east don't buy into the terrorism line anymore. That means education and food on the table everywhere and thats a long way off.   to the American fighting men and women.

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« Reply #44 on: January 09, 2004, 08:19:36 PM »
well said kj714

Im in total agreement with your view on that subject
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