Burning question: does the Bf109G suck?

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I would generally have to agree with this thread. Spitfire & Pony, pretty good. Me-109 and La5fn, need some work.

The Spitfire is just about what I would expect, except it is either slightly fast (no stopwatch tests yet) or the La5fn is too slow. Only difficulty is it seems to be very difficult to take off in, and once a real ground handling model is implemented, takeoffs may be a real squeak.

The Pony is a pleasent surprise. Its very docile and easy to takeoff in. Climb, speed, and roll are all about what I would expect. It certainly isn't a stellar TnB plane, but it is much easier to turn in than Pyro's WB's P-51 FM, since its not prone to those vicious accelerated stalls. Pretty much my favorite so far.

The Me-109G has me totally stumped. Turnrate is very poor, no suprise there. Climbrate seems fine, but it seems like its horizontal speed is too slow (again just a "feel" no solid data yet).  And then you have the well documented compression problems. So you can't fight in the vertical, you can't outrun anything, and you can't outturn anything. About the only thing it has going for it is its BFG, in the G10/R6 mode where you have the 30mm nose gun, and x2 20mm in the gondola pods. But the times you get to use them are few and far between.

The La5fn I understand was the last plane Pyro did before the beta, so I am hoping it gets a tuneup soon, well... that is after he adds my N1K2 he hinted at on this BBS.

But the La5fn "feel" seems to be off significantly as well. In several situations I have had coalt/co-E Spits just flat out run away from me (they shouldn't if I remember right) and its turnrate is comparable to the Pony, and it should outturn both the 109G and the Pony. Admittedly, I need to fly the La5 more since my impression are from the first few hours I flew online in AH, and I may be off in my impressions.

Oh well, thats about it, I couldn't resist a good Flight Model thread. So Pyro, is the N1K2 next in line, Japan needs a representative in the planeset. ?  



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WB's: (verm--), *MOL*, Men of Leisure, Goldlandia
AW's: (verm) ACCS, Aerial Crowd Control Services, Cland

[fats]

The WB Bf 109G-6 is an excellent plane and flies very nicely YMMV. Same cannot be said about the current AH G-10. But I guess the G-10 ought to be compared with WB K-4 anyway if one must/can compare them at all.

At the moment I can see slight problems with the flaps of the G-10, but no surprise that the FMs aren't spot on. It's the first beta release of the game and look how many times WB's flight models have been tuned. It has also been stated that HTC is concentrating on server/FE stability issues so in that light FM problems don't seem too important.


//fats

[Vermillion]

Don't get me wrong Fats, I was just passing on my general feelings, I know they will get tuned later.

That said, I should correct myself. I checked my data and found that I am flat out wrong on what I said on the La5fn.

It should have an almost identical climb ability to the Spitfire (which it seems too). Its top speed is almost the same as the Spitfire (which it seems too), and everyfighter we have should outturn it, except the Pony which should be almost equal.

So basically, I would say that Pyro's La5 is quite good from what I have seen so far.



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WB's: (verm--), *MOL*, Men of Leisure, Goldlandia
AW's: (verm) ACCS, Aerial Crowd Control Services, Cland

[-floo-]

Not sure about performance...but the wing crosses are ALL wrong! Shouldn't they have just plain white outline crosses?

BTW I've VERY suprised this sim runs at ALL on my old pent 200 mmx   Hvane't tried it online though and I probably won't until a get a SERIOUS upgrade. See you guys then!

-floo- fangs out

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[Yeager]

Stigler, I'm sorry that I mistook your honest concern for our game as a troll.
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It was no mistake Pyro.  Stig is trolling like a horny beaver in a rain forest.

If he had any intention of making an honest assesment he would have DLd the damn thing and gone out for spin!

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