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« Reply #150 on: January 11, 2004, 09:45:23 PM »
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Sure. It's funny how fast LIbya and Iran have suddenly seen the light. It's funny what a little POWER will do to put fear in these idiots. Even NK seems to be towing the line.



My Gad, this bbs has hope.

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« Reply #151 on: January 11, 2004, 09:46:14 PM »
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Jesus, you're a fascist. You probably don't know it though.

so you worry about pissing off people that call for your country's death?

LOL


I chose to find these idiots that chant to our death and take the fight to them.

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« Reply #152 on: January 11, 2004, 09:57:42 PM »
GREAT POST, Now I am sorry the US took out Saddam


LOL!

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« Reply #153 on: January 11, 2004, 09:59:49 PM »
I see a pattern...buried Migs...buried munitions

Hrmmm.....maybe they were planning to drop these buried shells with their buried Migs!!!!!!!

Crafty buggers...

What we should be doing is invading countries with an abundance of  shovels!!!!!!

Make it easier when coming up for a decent reason I suppose when it's all about those shovels....I mean weapons....I mean freedom....I mean Saddam...I mean...

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« Reply #154 on: January 11, 2004, 10:01:33 PM »
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Jesus, you're a fascist. You probably don't know it though.


Wow, now that's an argument.

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« Reply #155 on: January 11, 2004, 10:04:33 PM »
Bottom line: Iraq has complied with UN resolutions and the UN should be happy about that....their 12 year saga has ended in victory, although the UN had nothing to do with it's execution, the final UN goal has been realised.

UN for all your hard work in making Iraq compliant with your very srtick resolutions.

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« Reply #156 on: January 11, 2004, 10:20:23 PM »
GScholz obviously you have no understanding of the US's policies.  Though not everything may be liked by all but a threat to the US includes Allies (Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Norway, ect..).  So when it's said a threat to the US it's in many ways not just directly on our home land.

And since you brought up the fact that going to war is illegal unless the UN approves because of a direct attack then why are you in Afghanistan?  How and when was Norway ever involved here that justified there involvement?  How about in Iraq during the first Gulf War, was your country immediately threatened or placed under attack?

It's also rather funny you say you'd have no involvement in business transactions with the US but your country obviously enjoys the perks of being an Ally.  Especially beings the fact they own C-130's, F-16's, and F-5's that were so graciously made available by the US.  I'm sure I could find more ties that your country has to the US that I'm sure you'd enjoy learning about.

Simple fact is Iraq, more like SH brought this upon himself after sanctions were placed on his country after the first Gulf War.  And no matter how much you'd like to disagree or spout off your Anti-US bs you can't deny the fact that Iraq has failed to comply in many differents ways since 1991. There's a long list of failures to comply by SH including his long range missiles and acquiring advanced technology that could be used in war.

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« Reply #157 on: January 11, 2004, 11:06:19 PM »
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Godzilla, you may like international vigilantism and US world police. I don't.


You should or Broda and his ilk would be the bbs police not Skuzzy.  (if there was a bbs to post to considering the policies of our red friends you would prob would be in a "reeducation camp" anyway)

Carry on.

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« Reply #158 on: January 12, 2004, 12:31:17 AM »
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Sure. It's funny how fast LIbya and Iran have suddenly seen the light. It's funny what a little POWER will do to put fear in these idiots. Even NK seems to be towing the line.


You can thank our friends in Europe for the turnaround by Qaddafi. It wasn't the Bush administration.

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Libya's agreement to disarm under the watch of international inspectors is a welcome development but it is not as dramatic a turnaround as Bush & Co want us to believe. According to Joseph Cirincone, an arms specialist at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, "It's part of a trend that has been underway for ten years--of reforms and trying to reintegrate with Europe, mainly for business reasons."
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« Reply #159 on: January 12, 2004, 12:47:36 AM »
So GScholz I'm taking it you have contacts inside your government that gives you this knowledge of US supplied weapons to your nation?  I highly doubt that.  

I find it funny that you say the GWI was a UN operation and where were they after the "Operation"?  Is it typical for the UN to go in and then just leave and think all is good after a country has tried to envade another?  I suppose they just figured SH would just sit back and be a good boy from then on?

And we can't forget how well the UN backed up the resolutions that they agreed upon for Iraq.  Obviously they did pretty good since Iraq had been and did build missiles that were against the resolutions.  Oh wait I'm sure you'll have a nice come back as US's intelligence agencies should have alerted the UN to anything like this. And well ofcourse I'm sure you have intelligence that states not one of them were ever used and were just prototypes that were ofcourse made prior to the whole resolution thing. Or better yet that the Iraqi government had no clue that such missiles had the capability of reaching such places as Turkey, Kuwait, Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

I'm sure we can also bring up those resolutions somewhere and find that any failure to comply was immediate reason for use of lethal force to make them comply.  I guess thats one of those fine print things that everyone seems to miss in the contract.  Oh but wait Iraq never did anything to violate the resolutions correct?  All WMD and long range missile programs had be disposed of correct?

And answer me this since obviously you have all the knowledge when it comes to Iraq.  Why did Iraq keep moving surface to air missiles and SCUD launchers to the border of Kuwait even after the war if they didn't plan on using them?  And I'm sure your answer will be to defend themselves against pending air attacks by the US and Britain patrolling the no fly and drive zones.  Because ofcourse we were there to attack Iraq and it's people right?

GScholz I wish I lived in your little world where it seems everyone is so peaceful and perfect.  Maybe you should run around in little 60's getups so as to fit in with what seems to be a horde of hippies these days.  It'd also be nice to be so nieve as yourself so that daily life is more of a blur than reality itself.  Hey but you got one thing going for you, you'll always be welcome in France.

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« Reply #161 on: January 12, 2004, 01:32:13 AM »
Love the "get an education" line.  Is that all you can say or are you going to avoid answering the questions that you obviously don't know the answer to.  

And do honestly think it matters whether or not the US cares if you are impressed with us?  We are constantly the bad guy no matter what we do, good or bad.  What are you going to keep us from coming to the NATO Airmeet every year?  My god we won't be able to fly around in little tiger striped aircraft, what will we do.   And god knows with out Norway we would be in such dire straits if we ever went to war.

Simple fact is Iraq broke the UN resolutions and it only took 12 years to do something about it cause the UN wouldn't.  I could careless about the rumours of this and thats spread by the news.  It's the black and white that I see that tells me it was long over due.  And no I don't mean the papers but the photos and videos from recon and air patrol missions.

And I'm not sure how or why we'd say you owe us but of course that is purely political.  And if Norway is so stable then what would it matter and why would your government care or give in?  Pakistan backed out of buying F-16's that they had already signed a contract for.  We've got them sitting here on our line as proof.  If you wanted new aircraft then buy them, sell your old planes and build your own weapons.

I dont' always agree with what our government does but I'll be damned if I'm going to be made to stand by another country in a fight when they don't wanna be there in the first place.  It's bad enough we have those like that in our military who didn't think things through before joining.

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« Reply #162 on: January 12, 2004, 01:48:07 AM »
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The war against Afghanistan was UN approved.


Caare to be a bit more specific? When did the UN authorize the use of force against the Taliban? A call to form a UN force and oust the Taliban, on the order of the GW 1 resolutions? Got a specific SC resolution number?

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« Reply #163 on: January 12, 2004, 01:56:14 AM »
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A lot of those middle aged pharts did their time on the front lines. Go figure.


lol mostly in their imaginations - I stopped believing people's war stories when I was about 19.

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« Reply #164 on: January 12, 2004, 02:22:32 AM »
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I stopped believing people's war stories when I was about 19.


You're right. No one ever served. None. Well, at least after you were 19.
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