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Offline lazs2

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« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2004, 08:31:40 AM »
LOL  m&m.... figures sandy would pretend to like him...  

m&m... everything bad about what's going on in music... skinny, wimpy little white kid imitating the worse thing to come out of black music ever..  makes you wanna smack him around a little just to see him break out in tears.   Seen him in court... what a wimp.

anyone who pretends to like rap will someday suffer the same flashbacks as the guys who sang the praises of leisure suits back when.

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« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2004, 08:40:33 AM »
He sees more bellybutton than a toilet seat though and has a bit of cash in the bank, which must be terrible.

I'd say Rap has some merits; you could consider some of it as street poetry. Unfortunately, alot of it is bull**** about ho's, 9mms and pimping. I find it particularly hilarious when I'm in a club and you get the middle class white people taking it all so seriously. Set of bananas. Fortunately, hip-hop/RnB hasn't completely assimilated the clubs (yet), and I'll go find me some honest house or trance.

BTW, Jah-rule and Sean Paul must die. Sick to the back teeth of hearing them.
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« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2004, 08:54:40 AM »
dowding... getting laid and having money doesn't make him any less of what I have described.   I think we agree tho on the whole rap scene... "street poetry" LOL... like that's an excuse for that trash!  

nothing sillier than white kids pandering to that crap.   Well... there are things sillier but they are along the same lines.   I am not surprised that rap "artists" are gleefully fleecing their own people tho... if rap never existed they would be pimps or drug dealers.   That's your "street poetry"...

The only time they give back is if they hire another black for a driver or maid.

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« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2004, 09:06:08 AM »
No, eminem is a dick, but why not exploit a current trend if you're in a position to do it? Sing a few crap songs for a few years, make the cash, shag the women, live the life, retire at 30 and live like a king for 60 years. Sounds like smart business sense to me.

The stuff in the charts is about pimps and ho's and shagging women - but every genre has its dire trash. Doesn't mean its all crap - some of the more obscure stuff I've (over)heard is bearable. Wouldn't imagine buying it or putting it in my CD changer. Miss Dynamite sings and raps in opposition to usual crap; criticizes the gun culture, the pimping crap and even mentions promiscuity and AIDS in one song. You have to admit that makes a refreshing change.

Your point about selfish popstars is moot; the selfish part is redundant. How many stars are selfless saints?
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« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2004, 02:34:41 PM »
maybe I'm old fashioned but I don't think I could stand myself if I pandered like that to be rich.

as for the 'street poetry" crap... there are streets in the KKK and AB parts of town too.... does that make their speechs "street poetry"?   certainly they are less bigoted and less violent than their rap counterparts..  the message of hate is about equal tho..  can't understand why one is ok and the other isn't.

don't know who that woman is you speak of but... rap is crap..  not just the content but... even to this tone deaf old fart... talentless... same ol same ol no imagination.

I would enjoy smacking that little twerp around a little just to make him cry tho....  call me a barbarian.

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« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2004, 02:45:57 PM »
You assume that all rap preaches hate or is rascist anti-white BS, like the KKK or Lanser (that's that white supremecist ****e isn't it?). That Miss Dynamite girl is nothing like that - in fact the opposite. A fair few other acts talk about racial tolerance too and make a point of doing so. But like I said before, rap isn't my cup of tea - but neither is ballet but I can appreciate its artistic qualities.

The opportunity to check out the 'rock star' lifestyle would be interesting at least. Call it making an informed opinion. It would allow me to buy all the cars I wanted at least.

As for getting at eminem, you'd have to get past myriad bruisers. He can afford to talk so tough when he has that kind of hired help.
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« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2004, 04:37:52 PM »
You do realize that the roots of so called "classic" rock and roll can be found in black music?

Real bigots don't listen to Aerosmith. :p
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« Reply #37 on: January 22, 2004, 08:35:46 AM »
I grew up in the fifties and sixties so I realize it more than you do I bet.   I am talking about rap.   Nothing good will come out of it.  Lot's of good music used to come out of the black community... not so much anymore that I can see.

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« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2004, 08:38:14 AM »
Downding... most of it is racist crap.   It isn't even that tho.. it is the tired and annoying beat of the "music"   I don't care what that woman thinks... not important to me... I certainly don't care enough to have to listen to a rap beat to hear her message.

oh... and sandie... I am not gay so I don't listen to aerosmith.

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« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2004, 08:51:50 AM »
they can't sing or carry a tune .. what do you expect. parents hate it, so it sells...

how did crap rap invade a beach boys thread?
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« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2004, 08:53:17 AM »
liberals feel obligated to defend rap... pitiful really.

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« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2004, 09:32:09 AM »
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Pet Sounds is one of the top 2 or 3 albums ever recorded.


Pet Sounds is the first "concept album" ever recorded.
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« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2004, 07:53:36 PM »
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Originally posted by lazs2
I grew up in the fifties and sixties so I realize it more than you do I bet.   I am talking about rap.   Nothing good will come out of it.  Lot's of good music used to come out of the black community... not so much anymore that I can see.


That's a fairly myopic view... apparently "good" music must appeal to Lazs2. Otherwise, it's bad.

That's okay... there's a lot of music that doesn't appeal to me either, including the majority of what you would call rap and hip hop... I don't appreciate the majority of what Eminem has to say. Artists (and I use the term loosely) that are deliberately controversial tend to wear thin. But... the one thing I do like about Eminem is that fact that the music he uses behind the lyric is original. No sampling or outright reuse of older popular songs. You want to talk talentless rap star living on the fruits of others... let's talk about Sean PuffDaddyPeeDiddy Combs.

You can be certain that rap music will probably never go away. That particular style of singing (again, I use the term loosely) has infected too many different genres of music.


It's not all bad... I can't seem to keep from catching Matchbox Twenty on the television... They're latest album pretty much proves that they are wayyyy better than all of the bands that have been copying them for the past five years. They've got a live performance of "Bright Lights" that is nothing short of breathtaking. ... and good news! They don't do rap.

I really don't understand the typical complaint about there being no new good music. Our generation(s) had our day. We have our music. The kids are making their own right now. There are things that my children like to listen to that I just can't agree with, but thankfully, there is some common ground where we can find music that we both enjoy. So yes, I've learned to appreciate some of Eminem, some of Linkin Park, some of Limp Bizkit. But, at the same time, my children have learned to appreciate bands like Yes, and Pink Floyd.
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« Reply #43 on: January 23, 2004, 10:35:18 AM »
sandie... I have no idea what you are saying.   you are the one who said I didn't know about the roots of black music.   I do and I apreciate it.   I apreciated it back then too.   Elvis appreciated it... it was no big secret... before that, white people appreciated jazz... no big secret.

now we are talking about rap... it is a waste of sound.  If it is poetry then fine... it is crappy worthless poetry.   I think that you are stuck in the knee jerk liberal trap of having to justify something that you know is crap because you are afraid of being at odds with your liberal friends or.... horror of horrors.... maybe even prejudiced or ..... not hip!

we had our day... bach had his day... so what?  if it's good it will endure.   rap is the leisure suit and afro haircut of the new millenium.

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« Reply #44 on: January 23, 2004, 11:23:32 AM »
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