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« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2004, 08:49:03 AM »
Storch, what makes you so utterly certain there is a God?

Also, you call Darwinism 'the religion of the leftists' - wasn't Jesus the most left wing of them all?

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« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2004, 09:18:38 AM »
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Take the time to read the instruction manual for humanity. I know, I know manuals are soooooooo dull.  But your answers are found there.  If you are seeking earnestly, if not blow me off as being a weak moron with issues.  justify your mistaken decisions any way you please. you can adjust your course anytime while you are still breathing.  eternity is such a long time, how can anyone just flip a coin on such a monumental decision.  it is truly beyond my comprehension.


When things like that pop up in my mind, i know its time to take my medication.

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« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2004, 09:28:54 AM »
Storch,

I can understand that you are devout Christian, but don't you think that it is going a bit far (the sin of 'pride' springs to mind) to say that the Bible should be taken as a universal manual of human behavioral norms when there are other great religious texts which touch people as much as the Bible touches you?

Should not religious belief (or the lack of it) be an entirely individual decision?

Would it not be a cruel and evil God which punished people people about their beliefs if they didn't chime with what God wants them to belive?

Would it equally not be an extremely vain God which punished people because they refused to supplicate themeselves before it and praise its name?

just curious...

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« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2004, 09:31:34 AM »
One would even go as far to say that Storch is guilty of idoltry.
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« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2004, 09:33:21 AM »
This storch character is a riot. So certain in things he can't prove other than using half baked examples (a hole in your soul... right) while saying that the evolutionary theory is without a doubt wrong.

Ah, irony.
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« Reply #35 on: January 19, 2004, 09:34:24 AM »
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Did you know that BIBLE is an acronym?

Basic
Instructions
Before
Leaving
Earth


And here I was always thinking it was an anglicanization of the latin word for Book ... Biblios.

silly me.

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« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2004, 09:39:11 AM »
You mean those foldout pages in the back are actually UFO diagrams?

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« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2004, 11:08:35 AM »
if charls darwin helps raceism...and humans started out in africa...wouldent tat mean the africans are more evolved than the non africans...and therefore if anyone should be slaves to anyone else it should be whites to blacks not the other way around???

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« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2004, 11:10:20 AM »
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look into your heart, the little God void is there, only he can fill it. Go ahead and distract yourselves looking far and wide over the whole of the the universe to try to disprove him all you come up with is more proof that He is. Science is rapidly proving evidence of intelligent design in all of creation, or don't you read?


Storch, yet you ask for evedence of evolution and in the same breath you post this quoted above...

Thats one of the gripes i have about religious people, they want evidence of evolution and all the evidence you have to offer is :

"look into your heart"

"the bible"

"when you see your child get born you will understand"

etc etc...

Great evidence, you know what, if there was a god he certainly wouldnt be this passive as he seems to be at the moment...

And why play games? if he wanted mankind to belive in him he easily could convince everyone in a second... why does he do this? to test our faith? in that case why? why do he have to test our faith in him?

If he will resurrect all the men/women who belived in him after they died.

And he will not resurrect the equally good hearted men/women djust because they had a doubt that he existed then he aint a "good" god... in that case he plainly sucks....

Hey, i want to belive in a life after this, but to me theres NO evidence of a God anywhere... But heck im not stupid everyone must want there to be a god...

If he exists, why play games?
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« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2004, 11:17:24 AM »
who knows?  maybe everthing darwin or some other scientist "feels" is right will turn out to be the absolute only truth of the matter.... maybe the mormons are ded on... maybe it is someone else... maybe no one is completely right.   Does it really matter?

To see someone believe someone elses theory and then act smug about it because they know the "truth" allways cracks me up...  

The ones who believe the current "science" are allways the funniest tho.    guess they gotta justify all that money mom and dad spent on their education.

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« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2004, 02:08:00 PM »
lol i bet storch dosnt even know the history of his own religion. other then the one in the bible written by the romans that he believes to be true. lol at neo-platonic ideas and philosophy.

i hope you do realize that jesus wasnt even considered to be a god untill the emporer of rome converted to christiananity. because its not befitting for a ceaser to worship someone that isnt a god.

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« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2004, 02:41:23 PM »
Ah allus thot Bill France was the father of race-ism.

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« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2004, 02:53:04 PM »
Say what you want Storch.

Not a single "sign" since Jesus... And god expect us to belive in him?

Its different times, its at the best 50/50 by the youth growing up today that belives in god.

Whys this? the teaching of evolution in Schools? lack of signs from God? corruption of the society? Mankind being able to re invent themselfs (DNA etc).

Does God really have the right to label all this people as "non-belivers", after all the kids today get tought evolution in School!!!

The fact remains... When judgement day comes if theres an God and he judges people by Bible then alot of GOOD folks wont make the cut for resurrection...

You Storch, wont see your family in the afterlife because you said that they were non belivers...

I find this to be a sick God indeed... A sadist...
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« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2004, 03:03:10 PM »
Oh storch now your using info out of the bible. Not a very good source for historical facts. Have you ever studied the real history of christianity? or are you just hopping that a book written hundreds of years after jesus died and translated poorly into english is correct?

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« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2004, 03:33:54 PM »
This thread is getting interesting.

Storch...you mention that there are a number of prophesies in the bible which are correct, what are they? Are you referring to the 'hidden prophesies' which a professor claims to have found by running computer programmes through the text?

Of the events you describe, I am most interested in the the geneological tracing of all human DNA to one specific female living in ethopia not more than 10,000 years ago. I can check this out with a friend of mine who was the director of museums in Kenya.

I am also interested in this statement:

"I won't have to respond because my sins have been paid for. Jesus put them on his Master Card for me. "

By this, do you mean that you can sin as much as you like, but as your sins have been 'paid for in advance' you don't need to worry about sinning?

To answer a few of your questions to frogman:

The apocrypha:

Funnily enough I am reading a book at the moment called 'Rubicon' about the death of the Republic. The Sibylline oracle is mentioned (the one about the crone who brings the scrolls to the Roman King ('pre republic so they had kings then') and in it, fortold the trojan war. But we will never really know as the scrolls were destroyed.

Whilst Christ was alive (assuming that he was born in 0 AD of which there is some doubt), the Emporor was Augustus - although I'm not sure where that takes us.

The Praetorian Guard:

I'm sure we all have at least a vague idea of whom the Praetorians were, if only by seein the movie 'Gladiator'. Certainly, Gibbons, in 'The Decline and Fall' paints them out in their later years to have been king makers and only after lining their own pockets. It was, as you know, the Praetorians who 'crowned' Claudius Emperor of Rome, amongst many others.

Jesus claiming to be the son of God:

I don't think there is a passage in the bible where he makes this claim. The closest he gets is at his trial with Pilate. However, if one is familiar with the times, prophesies of a new messiah abounded and it is not beyond the bounds of thought that Jesus acted out some of the prophesies (the inconvienent ones were forgotten) such as riding through the eye of the needle on a Camel.  

There is a fairly solid body of thought that the term 'Jesus of Nazereth' was in fact an afterwriting of his true moniker 'Jesus the Nazerene' - the Nazarene's being the Roman equivalent of 'terrorists' who wished to see Judea released from the yoke of Rome.

As for the ressurection, again there is a fair chance that Christ was not actually dead when he was removed from the cross. It was more common in those days to tie people to the cross rather than to nail them to it. Also it is common thought that the Romans allowed followers to feed those being crucified for the duration of the crucifixion.

My sources for much of this is a book called 'the messianic legacy' which was written by two historians about the life of Christ by looking at as much historical evidence that they could find about the time (including the bible in many of its iterations).

I do not decry your belief, but I do think that if you are going to commit yourself heart and soul to something, you ought to be extremely sure about it, particularly when what is alleged flies in the face of common sense and our experiences.

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