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« Reply #45 on: January 17, 2004, 11:34:11 AM »
Allow me to just cross post my remarks from the other similar thread.






Old pictures of people getting blown up in war are fine. In fact, they are very popular and the advertisers support them. Why, even AH ran ads on Wings... which routinely shows enemies getting the old 20mm enema. Think about this: we all helped pay for those ads! Even Dowding!

But..... NEW pictures of people getting blown up are strictly verboten. Too edgy, too "now", too "hey, that was only 6 months ago!"; after all we can't support viewing people that supported a dictatorship dying on film NOW.

Only old pictures of people that supported a dictatorship 60 years ago getting blown up are acceptable viewing.
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« Reply #46 on: January 17, 2004, 11:37:29 AM »
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Old pictures of people getting blown up in war are fine. In fact, they are very popular and the advertisers support them. Why, even AH ran ads on Wings... which routinely shows enemies getting the old 20mm enema. Think about this: we all helped pay for those ads! Even Dowding!

But..... NEW pictures of people getting blown up are strictly verboten. Too edgy, too "now", too "hey, that was only 6 months ago!"; after all we can't support viewing people that supported a dictatorship dying on film NOW.

Only old pictures of people that supported a dictatorship 60 years ago getting blown up are acceptable viewing.



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« Reply #47 on: January 17, 2004, 11:38:55 AM »
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Im posting it because its what I think.

You are posting what you think - that we're all necophiliacs with lotion in one hand, member in the other, eyes fixed on the beauty of flying body parts...

and Im teling you to go **** yourself because thats what I think.  I think youre passionate reply is misplaced and you need to go try and stir up trouble elsewhere.

In any event, "go **** yourself" is not a personal attack, its a suggestion.

If I was aiming for a personal attack, I would have said "Deudel, your noodle is smaller than MiniD's."

I said that those which have FUN to look at these videos are IMO necophiliacs (I should have said have a tendency to necrophilia). Do u have FUN to see those pictures? If so u can relate my statement at urself. If not, why bother?
OTOH did ur 2nd statement above means i can go to any person (lets say a cop) and tell him to copulate himself (i dont want to use this dirty 4 letter word) and he wont be offended and tell me: "Oh thank u Sir but at the moment I dont get the urge"?
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« Reply #48 on: January 17, 2004, 11:49:22 AM »
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Allow me to just cross post my remarks from the other similar thread.

Old pictures of people getting blown up in war are fine. In fact, they are very popular and the advertisers support them. Why, even AH ran ads on Wings... which routinely shows enemies getting the old 20mm enema. Think about this: we all helped pay for those ads! Even Dowding!

But..... NEW pictures of people getting blown up are strictly verboten. Too edgy, too "now", too "hey, that was only 6 months ago!"; after all we can't support viewing people that supported a dictatorship dying on film NOW.

Only old pictures of people that supported a dictatorship 60 years ago getting blown up are acceptable viewing.

Hmm does this mean i missed the 60 years old gun footage from a Messerschmitt killing soldieres in the history forum?
But honestly u have a point here. What we see at this forum (not the O'Club) is p.e. a crashing B17. There are people dying (not really visible but we know they are there). Everyone who looks at those videos / footages posts that this is a terrible thing.
What makes me angry is (yes Mathman ur right its not so obvious in this thread) that there are people which seam!!! to have FUN (its different to just being interested in something) in looking at dying "ragheads" or whatever. Otherwise i cant explain myself the hype about these videos.

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« Reply #49 on: January 17, 2004, 11:58:53 AM »
I dont think anyone is having 'fun' watching these videos.

I think its a combination of curiosity and the desire to learn what is actually happening.

I dont see a problem with people trying to educate themselves - reardless of the subject matter.

For the most part, we're all adults here and are able to view images such as those being discussed in a manner other than morbid fascination.

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« Reply #50 on: January 17, 2004, 11:59:55 AM »
Post a pic of dead American troops or victims of say 9/11 and you'd hear squeals of indignation from those that are panting to view Iraqi's being killed.
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I disagree with your notion.  I see footage of this stuff and it just pisses me off because my team is getting clobbered.  Im sad when the opposing team gets clobbered too but in that sadness, deeper down, I rejoice...but in a sad way.  

Happy/Sad...Sad/Happy

Its all the same, just be on the team that wins.
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« Reply #51 on: January 17, 2004, 12:07:21 PM »
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I dont think anyone is having 'fun' watching these videos.

I think its a combination of curiosity and the desire to learn what is actually happening.

I dont see a problem with people trying to educate themselves - reardless of the subject matter.

For the most part, we're all adults here and are able to view images such as those being discussed in a manner other than morbid fascination.

Particularly the last part i doubt cause when u read some posts regarding the AH160 (or whatever it is named) footage like "yeah those copulating ragheads they deserve to blah blah blah ... look so cool as the one is trying to hide and BOOM blah blah).
But I'm withu (for most of the people here) with ur 2nd and 3rd statements.

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« Reply #52 on: January 17, 2004, 12:24:16 PM »
the word your searching for is hipocrits, the european value system is different i can see his angle. they arent trained to fight from birth like we are im as numb as the next american to it. but i can see the mans point. personaly in this case its clearly the bbs owners perogative to allow the thread to continue. thus as i see it everyone is within their rights and the powers that be have made a neutral decision.

base beliefs at stake with a "failure to communicate" deap southern drawl off. honestly deudle in our coulture people blowin up is fine. they played the tower collapse 100s of times what is that? sorry man we are hardend to it and "a little crazy because of it i think":(

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« Reply #53 on: January 17, 2004, 12:28:41 PM »


I came across and found a report from a Russian Military advisor in my room in 1988. Our baracks in Baghdad were the old Russian Advisors from the mid-eighties.   Guess the lad left his report briefing notes on top of his cabinet.  I found and submitted them to the UN.  It detailed the Soviet report of the use of chemical weapons against Iran and the effectiveness of the weapon types (artillery, motar, and air drop).

And Yeager, know how you feel...happy/sad. Bit of a mixed bad of feelings on how the Americans are getting hammered.  The British faced the same problems in the early 1900's when they occupied Iraq after they removed the head state when he became anti-british.  Lots of ambushes and roadside explosions then too.

Lets hope the Iraq Army gets back in the saddle again under American/British guidance and takes control of policing the militants.
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« Reply #54 on: January 17, 2004, 12:56:30 PM »
I just want to say this...IN.
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« Reply #55 on: January 17, 2004, 01:59:05 PM »
War= dead people Imagine that!
Get over It people be normal and go look at Pic's of neeked women .

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« Reply #56 on: January 18, 2004, 08:24:13 AM »
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War= dead people Imagine that!
Get over It people be normal and go look at Pic's of neeked women .

Good idea but I guess this would be censored.

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« Reply #57 on: January 18, 2004, 09:13:40 AM »
well that paranoia about nekid women and hookers is part of som christian crap. it like the constant exposer to horrific violence on tv radio book ect ect ect. is supposed to be the price of our freedom. ill admit the fact that you can show a breast being cut off by a demented thrill killer but not a woman enjoying showing to them. does seem to show we are ****ed up.

i have no prob with the violence just cant under stand how they figgure that wont hurt kids and sex will. methings most americans dont get any. sorry sad fact. freaks them out.

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« Reply #58 on: January 18, 2004, 09:15:46 AM »
i should qualify, after spending a summer in sweden.

by their standards americans dont get any. and they think mainland europeans are ****monkeys. dang paradice for a young american with a texas drawl.