Author Topic: SCUBA divers! Some questions (Read 2701 times)

AKIron · « **Reply #30 on:** January 23, 2004, 11:43:52 AM »

PADI and NAUI certified in '75. I think most dive shops won't rent you gear or fill your tanks unless you are certified. Diving can be pretty dangerous if you aren't trained. Spend the time and money to get certified, well worth it.

Ripper29 · « **Reply #31 on:** January 23, 2004, 12:13:39 PM »

I got my open water certification in a very cold lake in one of our national parks. brrrrr..... My last dives were off the Greek Islands of Paros and Santorini...much nicer...

mrblack · « **Reply #32 on:** January 23, 2004, 12:21:30 PM »

Only an Idiot would tell you wreck diving Is not hazardous.
And no you dont have to penetrate to get into trouble either.

Wrecks are a magnet for fishing lines and ans the supuer structure and other parts of the wreck weaken from there Is a chance of colapse from something as subtle as a exhaust bubble.

So If you dont have something fall on you you still stand a pretty good chance of getting caught in fishing line.

Not life threatining Unless you freek out.

Now Keep In mind I am talking about real wreck diving people.
Not the tourist wreck diving you find In the carribean.

After your cert do about 40 dives and then take your advanced open water coures.
Then you can take a coures by TDI for wreck and cave diving .

Keep in mind that the gear for wreck Diving Is very expesive.
I have around 6k tied up just in my wreck rig.

Just start off slow and learn bouyancy and proper breathing.

And Have Fun most of all.

Ping · « **Reply #33 on:** January 23, 2004, 12:45:31 PM »

Hmmm. Why is that knife strapped to your leg?

Real wreck diving? If I dive on a wreck in the Great Lakes, Is it not REAL wreck diving?
Perhaps you can consult your secret PADI handbook and tell me when I am, and when I am not REAL wreck diving.
There are excursions on the East Coast to dive on submarines. Does this mean they dont qualify as wreck diving because they are toured as a group?
Dive within your limitations and you are going to be as safe as diving in general permits. Wrecks are often graded according to their dificulty. Diving on a wreck does not require you to penetrate the wreck.
Diving underneath the superstructure would technically be penetration. The wreck diving course is geared towards P E N E T R A T I O N.
Hmm the list goes on.
You Sir are a Baffoon, meant in the kindest way possible of course.

mrblack · « **Reply #34 on:** January 23, 2004, 01:11:34 PM »

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Originally posted by Ping
Hmmm. Why is that knife strapped to your leg?

Real wreck diving? If I dive on a wreck in the Great Lakes, Is it not REAL wreck diving?
Perhaps you can consult your secret PADI handbook and tell me when I am, and when I am not REAL wreck diving.
There are excursions on the East Coast to dive on submarines. Does this mean they dont qualify as wreck diving because they are toured as a group?
Dive within your limitations and you are going to be as safe as diving in general permits. Wrecks are often graded according to their dificulty. Diving on a wreck does not require you to penetrate the wreck.
Diving underneath the superstructure would technically be penetration. The wreck diving course is geared towards P E N E T R A T I O N.
Hmm the list goes on.
You Sir are a Baffoon, meant in the kindest way possible of course.

Well not really I am though a Divemaster with 10 years experence and over 1.800 dives with out injury.
Also I have assisted in over 200 open water , advanced openwaterand resuce diver courses.

And to my knowlege have only lost one student and he died.
Beause he had drugs in his system and freeked on his deep dive and spit out his reg and bolted for the surface.

So junior flip when you have taught Diving such as I have and you have seen how different people react then you can give advice.

The fact that YOU may be comfortable on or around wrecks Is fine and dandy.

But as a Padi Professional I cant make that blanket statement and say wreck diving Is safe for open water divers.

kappa · « **Reply #35 on:** January 23, 2004, 01:14:15 PM »

Advanced classes are for weenies and good way for PADI to get you to spend money... lmao Mr.black.. Real wreck diving? As opposed to the hollogriphic wrecks tourist dive on? They are real neat till someone unplugs the projector... I saw a real nice one on Scooby Doo once..

Essential quality dive gear can be bought for less than $1200.. That will get you in and out of any non-technical diving whether it be cave, wreck, drift, spear fishing, or just plain having fun diving.. I suppose you could spend six grand.. But I dunno on what.. lol Perhaps a nuclear powered glow-in-the-dark self propelled compass... I hear those are expensive.. hehe

O ya.. snorkels are worthless too.. They just get in the way... Maybe not if you had one that produced it's own air.. 8)

Airhead · « **Reply #36 on:** January 23, 2004, 01:25:33 PM »

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Originally posted by mrblack
Well I just happend to be a PADI divemaster
Yea thats a ok deal.

Oh no you don't, MrBlack! You made me look like an idiot in the Apache Gun Camera thread by claiming to be a sniper, dude. Now you're trying the same old tricks by claiming to be a master diver? "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me."

You're too tricky for me- I'll even bet you have a fake PADI card and everything.

You won't catch me again bud.

mrblack · « **Reply #37 on:** January 23, 2004, 01:27:24 PM »

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Originally posted by kappa
I suppose you could spend six grand.. But I dunno on what.. lol Perhaps a nuclear powered glow-in-the-dark self propelled compass... I hear those are expensive.. hehe

Redundency that kicks up the cost.
Hell I forgot the individual prices on all my watermelon but you can look it up If you wany

OMS back-plate approx $550
BCD dual bladder
Two sets of twin 125 cf OMS tank one set air One set nitrox approx $1000

Two posideon Odion regualtors with 8ft octopus hose. approx $1.200

Mask $75
Fins $175
Gloves $80
Drysuite $2.200
Paramedic shears $5
Dive lights primary $600
SecondaryX2 $125
Dive knife X2 $55
Two gear bags $200 total $6.260

I am sure im forgetting somethings.

kappa · « **Reply #38 on:** January 23, 2004, 01:51:02 PM »

hehe wow.. glad I went to a different shop

Think I spent $200 total on 2 80cf tanks..

If you have one tank for nitrox and one regular, dont you need a different reg. setup for the different primary valves?

My regs are us divers that cost like $300 for the whole setup.. gauges too.. Primary has only 3 moving parts.. 8)

$600 for a dive light? Think I spent $80 for a damn good one..

Twice as much for fins as your mask?? ouchy

Im sure its a nice setup though black........................ ...........................

mrblack · « **Reply #39 on:** January 23, 2004, 01:53:19 PM »

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Originally posted by Airhead
Oh no you don't, MrBlack! You made me look like an idiot in the Apache Gun Camera thread by claiming to be a sniper, dude. Now you're trying the same old tricks by claiming to be a master diver? "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me."

You're too tricky for me- I'll even bet you have a fake PADI card and everything.

You won't catch me again bud.

You have been OWNED:rofl

When will you tards learn to never question me!! now bow to my greatness LOL.

mrblack · « **Reply #40 on:** January 23, 2004, 01:55:43 PM »

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Originally posted by kappa
hehe wow.. glad I went to a different shop

Think I spent $200 total on 2 80cf tanks..

If you have one tank for nitrox and one regular, dont you need a different reg. setup for the different primary valves?

My regs are us divers that cost like $300 for the whole setup.. gauges too.. Primary has only 3 moving parts.. 8)

$600 for a dive light? Think I spent $80 for a damn good one..

Twice as much for fins as your mask?? ouchy

Im sure its a nice setup though black........................ ...........................

Yeah Im kidda a gear nutt.
My dive light Is an OMS halogen 125watt with seperate batt pack.
Has a 90min Burn time.

Yeah One reg set up has to be nitrox only !!!
But in reality I have 6 or 7 regulators laying around the house so If I need one for Nitrox I just have it cleaned and make shure

That It doe not have petroleum based o-rings in it.

mrblack · « **Reply #41 on:** January 23, 2004, 02:05:10 PM »

miko2d · « **Reply #42 on:** January 23, 2004, 02:11:40 PM »

JB73: IMHO breathing underwater is the most surreal experiance i have ever had. SOOO relaxing and the WOW factor was out of this world.

With real scuba gear - yes. I was doing some underwater work with a military gas mask that produces oxygen from a chemical cartige.
The supply of oxygen is more or less stable while the demand is not necessarily so. Do something more strenuous and the oxygen is just not there for a while.
The reaction is usually to tear off the mask (the cartrige is affixed to the vest right on one's chest) and surface, but the cartrige's oxygen production is activated by small amounts of water vapor expelled while breathing and real water pouring in causes it to heat up explode.
Trying to attach a 2.5-inch cable to a tow-hook of a stalled tank 10 feet inderwater is quite a strenuous exercise.

Lying flat in a shallow ditch for a few hours untill it became too dark for a lurking sniper to see us was more relaxing than that kind of diving...

Maybe some day I will get a real scuba license and do it the way it was supposed to be done - for enjoyment as JB descrbes...

miko

capt. apathy · « **Reply #43 on:** January 23, 2004, 02:26:01 PM »

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O ya.. snorkels are worthless too.. They just get in the way... Maybe not if you had one that produced it's own air.. 8)

you can get a lot more dive time if you use your equipment corectly. leave your tanks alone and use the snorkle on the swim out, wait until you are above the deepest spot on your plan, hit your deepest point first and the decompression mostly takes care of itself on the way up, if you need to take a stop the computer will let you know). thanks to the computers you can take advantage of the natural decompression as you check things out on your move to shallower water (it takes a bit of your freedom away if you try to figure it with the tables, you kinda have to mind a schedual).

between using a snorkle when I don't absolutely need the tank, and being extreamly relaxed in the water, I often use less than half the air of someone who is half my weight for the same dive)

Tarmac · « **Reply #44 on:** January 23, 2004, 02:27:10 PM »

Always wondered what happened to snorkel tanks if the snorkel wasn't quite long enough or sucked some water or whatever else would cause one to quit on the bottom of a ford.

Doesn't sound fun.