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Offline DmdBT

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« on: November 05, 2000, 10:09:00 PM »
...should not be tied to version upgrades, if the artwork exists and the flight model is solid, why wait for ships, new terrains, new strats, etc, etc? We are going to be waiting to fly these planes because the rest of v1.05 isn't ready yet.

Its a conspiracy I tell ya... just like them invisible silent helicopters hovering over my house right now.......

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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2000, 10:36:00 PM »
They're not really hovering, thats just a time-distortion device to make you THINK it's hovering.

Btw if your gonna keep gawking through your windows at our choppers, you could at least make us some coffee.


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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2000, 11:25:00 PM »
fek the coffee. Tell 'em to send me dougnuts.

The price of Freedom is the willingness to do sudden battle, anywhere, any time and with utter recklessness...

...at home, or abroad.

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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2000, 11:38:00 PM »
I think they've nnswered this one before.
My understanding (fairly worthless as far as it goes, but it's somewhere near the truth) is that each release requires them to compile and distribute the code, which requires a non-trivial amount of work. In addition, their release cycle is not simply "Well, we got all this stuff done which we then released in 1.04", it's more along the lines of:
A. Develop New Stuff
B. Finish New Stuff
C. Release New Stuff in a new version
D. within 24 hours patch the really bad bugs
E. Within 72 hours patch the really annoying bugs
F. Within a week fix the other stuff.
G. Develop New Stuff.

In short, releasing a new version isn't a simple, fire-and-forget affair like something you'd pick up at the Alcoholic Divorcee Lounge on a Saturday night.  It's a process in itself that takes several weeks.  Doing that every time the art is ready and the flight model is close (think they have an arrestor hook yet?) just isn't efficient.  On the other hand, if you wait too long between revs, you risk letting the game go stale.


By the way, they're not really invisible or silent.  Your neighbors are lying to you.

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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2000, 12:09:00 AM »
Dinger how dare you talk about the Matador like that...

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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2000, 12:41:00 AM »
Dinger, you don't need a new version to add a plane.

I do believe it will be some time before the fleet is completed.  It would be nice to have the two new aircraft in the interum.  The natives are restless.

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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2000, 03:55:00 AM »
 
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Dinger, you don't need a new version to add a plane.

Fw190A5 was complete only a couple of weeks after the release of v1.02. It only was included in v1.03, nearly 2 months later...

I asked this to Pyro one month before 1.03 ,why couldnt he add the Fw190A5 before 1.03 if it was complete.

He aswered that ,while he'd love to do it, when one version is finished (with all the patches and stuff), the game's code is "open" to make modifications and fixes. And the new planes to come are modelled to fly in the NEW version, that is, with the new code.

I dont know if I got it right, but the thing I understood clearly is that they CANT add planes between releases, not because they dont want to, but because it is impossible.

 

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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2000, 08:16:00 AM »
 It would be betterr for HTC to release as they have in the past order for them to take care of any issues at one time but also during said time as they are best prepared to work those issues.  It works better than;  release a plane, try to continue working on the next version but in reality they will be incessantly interupted to look at or fix bugs folks found or think they found all because they released vehicles/planes piece meal in order to satisfy the insatiable appetite of this community  

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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2000, 12:26:00 PM »
It sure seems some aircraft were added with patches..

P-47D-30
P-47D-25

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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2000, 12:37:00 PM »
Yup, with patches, but patches that came out when?  In the revision process.  I seriously doubt they knocked off the entire flight model and aircraft art in the time between release and patch.  And how long were they enabled before they had to go back into the shop?

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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2000, 03:55:00 PM »
 
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Yup, with patches, but patches that came out when? In the revision process

It came out in patches.  The original comment was that this is not possible.  It is.

 
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I seriously doubt they knocked off the entire flight model and aircraft art in the time between release and patch.

I don't really understand this comment.  I seem to remember HTC saying the two new aircraft were being wrapped up a couple weeks ago.

 
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And how long were they enabled before they had to go back into the shop?

Asside from an artwork issue with one of the planes... the only real fm tweek occured at 1.04 when they redid fms completely.

I understand that it is entirely HTC's perogotive to release what/when/why/where.  I won't dispute it or condemn their decision.

It doesn't mean I can't believe that sooner would be better than later on these aircraft.  The complete terrain change and fleet work will render a large gap between the release of 1.05 and the last patch.  These planes could bridge that gap.

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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2000, 06:57:00 PM »
I seem to remember that the p47 was a surprise addition with a small patch.I too would like to see aircraft added as im getting slightly bored with current trend of f4c's and nikis everywhere   im beginning to pick fights with what ever plane is different lately eg yaks,zeros,typhoons etc and if we got a new plane once a month ( ok!,ok! 2 months   ) it would keep AH fresh like it is after each update.
even if they introduce it so it can be flown offline whilst FM tweaked would be great.

PLEASE treat us to new planes HTC  

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