Author Topic: Store owner kills robber, gets charged with manslaughter! (Read 1045 times)

SOB · « **Reply #15 on:** January 28, 2004, 12:56:33 PM »

He'll go on trial, as he should, and hopefully he'll get off. The lowlife dirtbag relinquished his right to live when he stuck a gun (pellet or otherwise, he presented it as a lethal weapon) to the store owner's head.

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by MJHermanOut of curiousity, would you still think that the store owner should not be charged if he shot the robber in the back while he was running away from the scene of the crime?

Yeah, still a trial, still hope he would get off. The plus side of this scenario, though, is that he wouldn't have any front end damage on his SUV. I bet his insurance company doesn't even cover the damage. That's a shame.

Otto · « **Reply #16 on:** January 28, 2004, 12:57:35 PM »

He was making a "Citizen's arrest" of a fleeing felon. Incedent to that arrest the felon died while resisting.

gofaster · « **Reply #17 on:** January 28, 2004, 12:58:26 PM »

Don't worry, SOB. Florida is a no-fault state.

Modas · « **Reply #18 on:** January 28, 2004, 01:01:09 PM »

He RAN the guy down in his SUV after the robber left? Sorry, but the threat to him left when the robber ran away.

Manslaughter is a good charge here. He was not defending himself or his property at the point he drove down a 1 way street to get him.

Now, had defendant backed up while the robber had the gun in the his face and ran him over, that would be a different story.

The guy went to far. Now if he was afraid that the guy was gonna come back and potentially finish the job, (i.e. kill the witness) then he should go out, buy a 12 guage, wait for the bastard to get in the front door and then pop him 2 or 3 times. There isn't a jury in the world that would convict him of any wrong doing in that situation because, the IMMEDIATE threat was there (i.e. the robber in the house) AND because of the past history of the prior encounter.

gofaster · « **Reply #19 on:** January 28, 2004, 01:05:03 PM »

Modas, you assume that the robber wasn't patient. He snuck up on the owner once, who's to say he wouldn't wait and catch the owner unawares again? Shotguns are mighty big things to be toting around while serving up fried rice and vegetables. I certainly wouldn't want to eat at a place where the service packed rods.

fd ski · « **Reply #20 on:** January 28, 2004, 01:34:04 PM »

i need a gun so that I can shoot myself...

i can't believe what i'm about to say...

I agree with Rip !!!

Ripsnort · « **Reply #21 on:** January 28, 2004, 01:56:08 PM »

I might add that I've been taught (as well as my sons will be taught when they're old enough) NEVER pull a gun on ANYONE unless you intend to KILL them and ONLY do it in SELF DEFENSE. Anything outside of this (besides the Military) is what I consider a murderer.

The same could be said for the SUV as a weapon. Had the criminal been running up to the store owner while the store owner was sitting in the SUV , then I'd say run 'em over, and back over him a couple times to be sure he's dead.

lazs2 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 28, 2004, 02:31:54 PM »

we all agree... the store owner was wrong but.... I'm goad he did it. If I was on the jury he would get off. I see child molesters get loose because the arrest warant had the wrong address...

not so much interested in the law here as I am justice.

lazs

LePaul · « **Reply #23 on:** January 28, 2004, 02:38:50 PM »

The guy is probably guilty of everything charged

But he trimmed the genepool some by giving this guy Michelin poisoning. Doesn't bug me a bit, if he does time, it wont be much of anything

Eagler · « **Reply #24 on:** January 28, 2004, 02:43:57 PM »

ping is right on this one ..

I believe the guy was just tailing him for the cops when the perp ran out in front of the SUV, probably jaywalking ...

Pei · « **Reply #25 on:** January 28, 2004, 05:15:17 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Once the gun was no longer pointed at him (the guy started running), he became a murderer IMO. Self defense is the act of defending ones self while under threat. The thief was no longer a threat once he started running.

Wow, I think I just agreed with Ripsnort. There must be a conjunction of planets going on or something........

Hajo · « **Reply #26 on:** January 28, 2004, 07:36:07 PM »

I woulda backed over him after running him down....to many people these days leave work half done.

Stoned Gecko · « **Reply #27 on:** January 28, 2004, 07:41:08 PM »

I hope the store owner gets off. Doesn't matter that the gun was no longer pointed at him.

Anyone who forcefully and illegally takes other people's property should consider a possible consequence of having their neck slashed and left bleeding on the sidewalk ... even if they got away the first time and ran into the person they robbed two weeks after the fact.

Vulcan · « **Reply #28 on:** January 28, 2004, 08:48:05 PM »

FWIW at close range pellet guns can be quiet lethal.

My story... I was following him while contacting the police. Suddenly he whirled pointing the gun at me, I accelerated to evade but in doing so lost control of my vehicle and accidently overan the perp. Then I realized I was going the wrong way down the street so I immediately reversed and backed out there.

Honest office.

SOB · « **Reply #29 on:** January 29, 2004, 12:08:02 AM »

I'm going to vote for Vulcan for president this November. He's shown a natural ability for what makes a good politician great!