Objective Setup Grades

[artik]

We are trying to find a way to grade setup - give values from A to F. But all this descriptions are subjective. You can see people post because they do not like or do like the setup. Most of CT players even do not visit BBS. You can see same people post their opinion on setup. Thus we get a feedback from very low amount of people.

But what can we choose as objective factor?

Probably the number of players.
If setup has high number of players this probably good setup and otherwise.

We have a lot of statistics - kills plane vs plane, country vs country.

Probably we need the sum of flight time users spend at CT per tour. We have flight time per player but if we have such statistics per country from date to date (for each setup) we could find much more suitable way do measure the quality of setup.

We can also measure the relation of flight time between 2 countries to test if one side was outnumbered duaring setup or not.

Yes.... we can tell that number of players is not equal quality of setup. But is only objective way to know how many people enjoyed or just go to MA or discoed.

Can we get such statistics like average players number per country or fight time per country?

HTC?

[brady]

Generaly speaking you are right, a small percentage of the players who frequent the CT frequent the boards, well a small er percentage at any rate.
  The grading of the set up's, like stats are interesting to look at but they do not tell the whole story either, and are often misleading.

 Player numbers over the course of the week is a good indicator, howeaver depending on what map is up in the MA we can see numbers fluctuate considerably as a result in the CT.

 Realy their is no 100% effective way to ganer the absolute unbiased gade for any CT set up, the truth is realy the sum of all the above taken with a harty does of salt's.

[artik]

Originally posted by brady
Player numbers over the course of the week is a good indicator, howeaver depending on what map is up in the MA we can see numbers fluctuate considerably as a result in the CT.

Yes you right but we can find a conversion factor for each MA terrain. We have Pizza, Trinity, BigIsles, Fester and Small. For each of them we can assign conversion factor and get corrected results for CT according to MA map.

Originally posted by brady
Realy their is no 100% effective way to ganer the absolute unbiased gade for any CT set up, the truth is realy the sum of all the above taken with a harty does of salt's.

Yes you are absolutly right. But do we can ask each player to grade each setup? I think don't.

This is big problem to choose right factor to tell if something good or not - because it is very subjective thing. But we can at least to find a factor that will tell us. Run this setup more times - it worst it or This was terrible.

The fine tuning of setup can be done according to responses and requests at BBS when the magor factor should be objective (like statistics) and not subjective.

[Reschke]

One thought would be to have a "popup" like HTC has done in the past with things they want the entire player base to comment on. I don't know if they can get that from us but I think they can have it only show once per player. How it would be done is another thought; could it show with each setup change or just once per CT Tour? Even if it can be done I think HTC had the last "poll" in the arena with a cancel button and you didn't have to let your opinion be known.

[brady]

Ultimatly it is the staffs call on wheater a set up is bad or not, this is also not nescessaly a popularity contest, we run some set up's knowing they will not have as high an attandance as other's, some of these are experemnts some are player submited set up's some just bad choices on the staff's part,I know I have screwed the puppy before set up wise, certainaly was not my intent but we do learn from such things that is why we still do experement with set up's on ocashion.
  This is realy somthing that doesent warent over analisation, bad set ups are prety obvious to one and all and realy good ones are as well the rest 90% fall in the middle, it is a very slipery thing realy.
  You will note alos that the staff is not doing the grading thing that is up to the players who are giving their openions as always, though in a more controled manner, frankely their have not been any real suprises their, all it realy tells is how each player feals about certain things, it is interesting to look at but not nescessarly determing whear we go from hear....